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    LINK REMOVED seems to think doing something for charity means to give the bare minimum of 10% of the proceeds. When someone raises money and talks about donating to charity, especially when they are worth $40 mil, you would guess as most of the bidders on ebay did that they would give more than a paultry 10%. But, when personal generosity isnt part of your liberal make up, I guess 10% is good. But hey, democrat leaders barely give up their own cash voluntarily and proclaim "its the right thing to do" when they make laws forcing everyone else to give up money for the poor. BO and Biden didnt even start giving more than 1% to charity till a year before BO started running for POTUS. Biden still only gives around 3%.
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    The more I read about this, the more I'm like meh! At least she's giving something. I guess the only problem I have is, and this is what I heard on some of the morning radio programs(talk and regular morning shows) is that most of the stuff she's selling was given to her for free. Don't know if that's true though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giant Voice View Post
    The more I read about this, the more I'm like meh! At least she's giving something. I guess the only problem I have is, and this is what I heard on some of the morning radio programs(talk and regular morning shows) is that most of the stuff she's selling was given to her for free. Don't know if that's true though.
    Eh, could be. But you are right about the "meh". Just seems like its par for the dems always screaming about the greedy rich not paying their "fair share" when they do so much more. Especially conservative rich who consistently give to charities without a natural disaster. Glad she "always" gives 10% of normal salaries, but then why would this be considered a "special" charitable auction if she was going to be giving 10% anyways? Where is the extra effort to help those in dire need now. The $10 donations that you can give to redcross through a txt is above and beyond normal giving for most.
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    I am not 'meh' about giving 10% of the proceeds of a declared charity event and no one else should be either.

    Having said that................I don't see this as a case of liberals being liberals. I don't think anyone in the Kardashian clan is smart enough to hold a cogent political thought never mind forming an overall moral stance. If anything, since the GOP is always painted as capitalists to a fault they would be in that camp since they would sell their own afterbirth to make a buck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TJMAC77SP View Post
    I am not 'meh' about giving 10% of the proceeds of a declared charity event and no one else should be either.
    The point about "meh" is that its kind of a "dog bites man" story. 10% is a great amount. But when you normally give 10% like Kim does, its seems exploitive to say its for charity using a current event and just doing your normal routine. Honestly, its why I find the charities that give nearly 100% to the needy like most of Glenn Beck's disaster response charity drives.

    Having said that................I don't see this as a case of liberals being liberals. I don't think anyone in the Kardashian clan is smart enough to hold a cogent political thought never mind forming an overall moral stance. If anything, since the GOP is always painted as capitalists to a fault they would be in that camp since they would sell their own afterbirth to make a buck.
    I say its "liberals being liberals" because its their stated position to "not let a crisis go to waste". Kim's parents are GOP supporters, Kim has claimed democrat which seems fitting for someone who gained a lot of wealth with no real skill set.
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    This is why I think celebrities of any variety giving individual contributions to private charities should also be kept private, it's not a whole heck of a lot better than getting out of a vehicle in short dresses without underwear on in my opinion, and I can at least privately enjoy the latter when my wife and son are not in the room.

    If they want to use their celebrity to encourage others to donate to a worthy cause, or to do their jobs, (entertaining) of a worthy cause (Gary Sinise comes to mind), it makes sense to that. But whatever Kim Kardashian's political leanings I care very little about about how much of it she donates to charity. To cite such a thing is the very same mentality that has the more "progressive" variety harping about "millionaires and billionaires". Like her or hate her, Kim Kardashian has successfully turned her own name into a marketed brand and in that sense much of her earnings are actually her own. I don't particularly intend to emulate her actions, but the fact that she does live that way is certainly capitalism at work.

    I prefer celebrities to keep their generousity low key, I don't think anyone knew about Paul Walker buying a returning Iraq veteran an engagement ring was known about until the cashier who witnessed it came forward just after his death. That is where I think the true generousity and integity lies.
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    This thread is just another one where WJ5 is being angry as usual, and capitalizing on an "A HA" moment after he feels that he found his smoking gun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AJBIGJ View Post
    This is why I think celebrities of any variety giving individual contributions to private charities should also be kept private, it's not a whole heck of a lot better than getting out of a vehicle in short dresses without underwear on in my opinion, and I can at least privately enjoy the latter when my wife and son are not in the room.
    How is she going to keep it private AND sell something she wore for any amount of money?

    If they want to use their celebrity to encourage others to donate to a worthy cause, or to do their jobs, (entertaining) of a worthy cause (Gary Sinise comes to mind), it makes sense to that. But whatever Kim Kardashian's political leanings I care very little about about how much of it she donates to charity. To cite such a thing is the very same mentality that has the more "progressive" variety harping about "millionaires and billionaires". Like her or hate her, Kim Kardashian has successfully turned her own name into a marketed brand and in that sense much of her earnings are actually her own. I don't particularly intend to emulate her actions, but the fact that she does live that way is certainly capitalism at work.
    Agreed, captalism works. And from those that believe in it, there is no good or bad way to make money as long as it doesnt harm others through direct actions of the ones that gain the money from it. But to point out her political leanings is to show who is actually aligned with the dems. Romney lost the election cause of his wealth of $250 million, but Obama wins with the backings of his billionaire friends like Oprah.

    I prefer celebrities to keep their generousity low key, I don't think anyone knew about Paul Walker buying a returning Iraq veteran an engagement ring was known about until the cashier who witnessed it came forward just after his death. That is where I think the true generousity and integity lies.
    And he was non-political.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Jones View Post
    This thread is just another one where WJ5 is being angry as usual, and capitalizing on an "A HA" moment after he feels that he found his smoking gun.
    Not really a smoking gun here, she is not a big figure head in the dem party. Just something to talk about because it was slow yesterday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WILDJOKER5 View Post
    Not really a smoking gun here, she is not a big figure head in the dem party. Just something to talk about because it was slow yesterday.
    This is the stuff that really has no point to it except an extremely lame attempt to "stick it in someone's eye". It's precisely this form of rhetoric that is the reason a "left" and a "right" exist, paraphrasing what someone famous once said, they're both wings on the same damn bird!
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