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    Default Who in Congress legitimately deserves to be fired?

    Here is a test and a challenge: who in our Senate and House of Representatives has consistently proven to be worthless in your eyes? Here's the harder part, for every Democrat, you must also name a corresponding Republican; and likewise, for every Republican, you must name a corresponding Democrat. Obvious adherence to party lines will reveal you to be nothing more than a partisan hack who is absolutely too narrow-minded to move past your obvious intellectual incapability of engaging in Critical thinking skills. So, with that out of the way, who deserves to get the axe?
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    I'll start out with six individuals:
    Harry Reid & Lindsay Graham
    Dianne Feinstein & John McCain
    John Boehner & Nancy Pelosi
    "The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first." ~ Thomas Jefferson

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    Everybody that has been sitting more than one term!

    I like you list, but would add Barbara Boxer(D), Mitch McConnell(R), Shelia J Lee(D), Debbie Wasserman Schultz(D), Richard Shelby(R), McCain(R) as well.

    But I stand more by my first statement. There also needs to be term limits set for these fools.

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    ^^^ 100% agree! Term Limits for all of them but, that will never happen. Who would have to change the limits? They would. Some would say the voters can automatically change their limits by voting them out. Not going to happen. People don't like change and continue to vote the same people over and over back into office hoping something will change.

    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raustin0017 View Post
    ^^^ 100% agree! Term Limits for all of them but, that will never happen. Who would have to change the limits? They would. Some would say the voters can automatically change their limits by voting them out. Not going to happen. People don't like change and continue to vote the same people over and over back into office hoping something will change.

    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
    Yep...it'll never change. Not as long as the people who have the money to advertise the most get the most votes at the congressional level. Congressional votes are nothing more than name recognition.

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    An explanation as to why you would want to "fire" someone would make your statements credible. Otherwise, you're just naming names because you're uneducated. Check out the website opencongress dot org.

    For example, I would like to "fire" Saxby Chambliss, R-GA, for the introduction of the Fair Tax Act of 2013. Repealing the income tax, and the IRS is a terrible idea. Introducing this kind of law would further burden the middle class, while wealthier Americans have a lighter tax burden.

    I would like to "fire" Mary Landrieu, D-LA, for co-sponsoring the Aged Distilled Spirits Competitiveness Act. Giving in to the alcohol lobby further criminalizes marijuana, which should be legalized.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raustin0017 View Post
    ^^^ 100% agree! Term Limits for all of them but, that will never happen. Who would have to change the limits? They would. Some would say the voters can automatically change their limits by voting them out. Not going to happen. People don't like change and continue to vote the same people over and over back into office hoping something will change.

    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
    Actually, governors can start a state convention that would introduce a new ammendment that can over ride the congress approval process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AFcynic View Post
    An explanation as to why you would want to "fire" someone would make your statements credible. Otherwise, you're just naming names because you're uneducated. Check out the website opencongress dot org.

    For example, I would like to "fire" Saxby Chambliss, R-GA, for the introduction of the Fair Tax Act of 2013. Repealing the income tax, and the IRS is a terrible idea. Introducing this kind of law would further burden the middle class, while wealthier Americans have a lighter tax burden.

    I would like to "fire" Mary Landrieu, D-LA, for co-sponsoring the Aged Distilled Spirits Competitiveness Act. Giving in to the alcohol lobby further criminalizes marijuana, which should be legalized.
    Good and bad points. Your GOP guy should be fired for voting FOR the NDAA. As far as the tax issue, does any "rich" or middle class even pay what they are expected to pay anyways? The income tax levels are never paid in full by anyone. Why not get a tax that actually gets everyone some "skin in the game"?
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    Most likely the same reasoning people hate a 'flat tax' as they feel it burdens the lower classes more than it would burden the higher classes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AFcynic View Post
    An explanation as to why you would want to "fire" someone would make your statements credible. Otherwise, you're just naming names because you're uneducated. Check out the website opencongress dot org.

    For example, I would like to "fire" Saxby Chambliss, R-GA, for the introduction of the Fair Tax Act of 2013. Repealing the income tax, and the IRS is a terrible idea. Introducing this kind of law would further burden the middle class, while wealthier Americans have a lighter tax burden.

    I would like to "fire" Mary Landrieu, D-LA, for co-sponsoring the Aged Distilled Spirits Competitiveness Act. Giving in to the alcohol lobby further criminalizes marijuana, which should be legalized.
    To be honest, I felt the names spoke for themselves. It's hard to effectively summarize the breadth and depth of their collective ineffectiveness.

    For my list, Reid is essentially an obstructionist bully, he clearly has zero interest in accomplishing anything in the Senate beyond gaining more power for himself every set of elections.

    Graham and McCain are hardly worth the term "RINO" after Syria and the budget talks. They have not a principle between them except to draw us into every skirmish they can identify.

    Boehner is a carpet.

    Feinstein is a drama queen who's not encountered a crisis she couldn't exploit to further a nutcase agenda.

    Pelosi, I actually gave credit towards possibly being principled until recently, even if I couldn't get behind the principles she espoused. Syria threw that notion in the crapper, she is clearly a narrative voicebox for the Democratic Party and little else.

    All above are examples of why the Congress and the Senate have little value more than public intrigue. If they showed an ounce of character I'd change my tune, but I've seen little from any of these individuals that could make me honestly believe they care more about the country and the Constitution they've sworn to uphold than they care about gaining and holding power through the force of government.
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    "The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first." ~ Thomas Jefferson

    It will be of little avail to the people that the laws are made by men of their own choice if the laws be so voluminous that they cannot be read, or so incoherent that they cannot be understood.
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