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    Default Bradley Manning Wants YOUR TAX DOLLARS to Pay for Hormone Therapy

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    (CNN) -- Bradley Manning wants to be a woman.

    The U.S. Army soldier sentenced this week to 35 years in prison for leaking 750,000 pages of classified documents to the anti-secrecy group WikiLeaks said Thursday in a statement read on NBC's "Today" show that will seek hormone therapy and live as a female named Chelsea.

    "As I transition into this next phase of my life, I want everyone to know the real me," Manning said in the statement. "I am Chelsea Manning. I am a female. Given the way that I feel, and have felt since childhood, I want to begin hormone therapy as soon as possible. I hope that you will support me in this transition."

    Manning's lawyer, David Coombs, told "Today" that he hopes officials at Fort Leavenworth military prison will provide his client the hormone therapy.

    "I'm hoping Fort Leavenworth would do the right thing and provide that," Coombs said. "If Fort Leavenworth does not, then I am going to do everything in my power to make sure that they are forced to do so."

    The issue of Manning's gender identity repeatedly surfaced in his court martial on espionage charges. A widely circulated picture released by the military shows Manning in a blonde wig.

    Speaking in the sentencing phase of his court martial last week, Manning said that at the time he decided to leak the documents, he was "dealing with a lot of issues" -- a reference to his gender identity crisis.

    Manning's lawyer: He should not 'rot in jail'

    In an e-mail to his sergeant titled, "My Problem," Manning included the picture of himself in the wig.

    "It's not going away, it's haunting me more and more as I get older," Manning wrote in the e-mail. "Now, the consequences of it are dire, at a time when it's causing me great pain in itself. As a result, I'm not sure what to do about it."

    An Army psychologist called by the defense said Manning appeared to be isolated and under intense pressure as a male soldier struggling with gender identity issues.

    Manning's announcement comes a day after a military judge sentenced him to 35 years in prison for leaking hundreds of thousands of U.S. military and diplomatic documents.

    Manning, 25, was convicted in July of stealing the documents and videos and disseminating them to WikiLeaks, the online anti-secrecy group.

    The military judge also reduced Manning's rank from private first class to private, ordered him to forfeit pay and benefits and be dishonorably discharged.
    http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/22/us/bra...html?hpt=hp_c2

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    He would not be the first federal prisoner to receive hormone therapy while in jail.

    If it cannot be provided at Fort Leavenworth, I wonder if his lawyer would try to get the treatment done there or try to move him to a different facility.
    Last edited by Stalwart; 08-22-2013 at 02:01 PM. Reason: Wrong name for the prison

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    I think it's a ploy to get him in to a female wing and keep him safer than if he was in a male wing. I know the whole gender identity issue was brought up a long time ago, but it's awfully convenient for shim now.

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    I read he is not trying to get introduced into the female population, but that may very well be the intent.

    'shim' ... I see what you did there

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    Default Re: Bradley Manning Wants YOUR TAX DOLLARS to Pay for Hormone Therapy

    I'm going to go out to some affluent liberal neighborhood this weekend with signs and a big donation can to collect money for his hormone replacement therapy.

    Then I'm going to take the money and buy something nice for myself like a new iPad.

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    I guess the Army released a statement saying that Tricare does not cover hormone therapy.

    Lawsuit to follow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stalwart View Post
    He would not be the first federal prisoner to receive hormone therapy while in jail.

    If it cannot be provided at Fort Leonardwood, I wonder if his lawyer would try to get the treatment done there or try to move him to a different facility.
    I think you are a bit confused. Fort Leonard Wood is a training post in Missouri and Fort Leavenworth houses a military prison in Kansas... Bradley Manning is going to prison not to Basic Training.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pullinteeth View Post
    I think you are a bit confused. Fort Leonard Wood is a training post in Missouri and Fort Leavenworth houses a military prison in Kansas... Bradley Manning is going to prison not to Basic Training.
    You are right ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stalwart View Post
    He would not be the first federal prisoner to receive hormone therapy while in jail.

    If it cannot be provided at Fort Leavenworth, I wonder if his lawyer would try to get the treatment done there or try to move him to a different facility.
    IMO he should foot the bill for it himself. NOT have the tax payers do so. Someone on HLN likened it to why prisons have to pay for diabetics to get their meds etc... Well Diabetes is a verified PHYSICAL ailment that can kill. GID is as yet unproven (IMO) and does not cause you to die if you miss a shot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stalwart View Post
    I guess the Army released a statement saying that Tricare does not cover hormone therapy.

    Lawsuit to follow.
    And to my POV, tricare should NOT pay for it. Just like they should not pay for cosmetic surgery to make you feel better about yourself (Boob jobs etc). So from what i see, those lawsuits should be damned and tossed on their asses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garhkal View Post
    IMO he should foot the bill for it himself. NOT have the tax payers do so. Someone on HLN likened it to why prisons have to pay for diabetics to get their meds etc... Well Diabetes is a verified PHYSICAL ailment that can kill. GID is as yet unproven (IMO) and does not cause you to die if you miss a shot.

    And to my POV, tricare should NOT pay for it. Just like they should not pay for cosmetic surgery to make you feel better about yourself (Boob jobs etc). So from what i see, those lawsuits should be damned and tossed on their asses.
    I am not necessarily disagreeing with you. I am just saying there is a precedent for federal prisoners (I don't know of any that were in a military prison) to receive hormone therapy for gender disorders. This morning the Army put out a simple statement that said hormone therapy is not part of Tricare for military members but that psychiatric and psychological help is available to all inmates. I was told by an Army colleague that his request to be called by a female name is pretty much a non-issue for them -- as far as the Army is concerned he is a male.

    One organization has already said they will sue the government on his behalf if he is not afforded treatment for his gender identity disorder

    If he could pay the bill himself (or get it paid for via donations), would he even be allowed to undergo this therapy in prison?

    Could this be part of a series of maneuvers to get him moved to a more comfortable prison?

    Could this be part of an effort to keep his case in the news with a new series of issues (his lawyers have said that he will request a pardon & IF it was to be granted I don't think you would see that until DEC 2016 or JAN 2017)?

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