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    Default B-1 crash in Montana

    Wasn't sure whether to post here or "in the news"...but since it's an AF aircraft:

    B-1B crashed during a routine training mission in Montana, all four crew ejected, lived.

    Link to local story. http://www.ktvq.com/news/ellsworth-a...omber-crash/#_

    This just happened yesterday morning, doesn't seem to be a lot of details in the press yet.

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    AP has a story up, with a few more details about the crash site, location, and some aerial pics of the crash site:

    http://news.yahoo.com/b-1b-bomber-cr...210005183.html

    The crew were taken by ambulance to hospital, no life threatening injuries.

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    Default Re: B-1 crash in Montana

    How much you want to bet it was a mx issue? If they had time to eject I'm guessing it wasn't pilot error. Speculation on my part, admittedly.
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    Default Re: B-1 crash in Montana

    Serious question from a nonner here: Why does it seem like there is a disproportionate number of military aircraft mishaps compared to civilian aircraft (talking about commercial airliners here)? I realize the requirements for the aircraft are vastly different. Are commercial airliners that much better at maintaining their aircraft? It seems like we hear about at least 3-4 crashes every year whereas it is very rare to hear about a civilian airliner crashing. When you factor in the number of civilian flights versus military flights it seems like we crash a lot more than they do. Anyone have any thoughts on this?

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    Default Re: B-1 crash in Montana

    Quote Originally Posted by SomeRandomGuy View Post
    Serious question from a nonner here: Why does it seem like there is a disproportionate number of military aircraft mishaps compared to civilian aircraft (talking about commercial airliners here)? I realize the requirements for the aircraft are vastly different. Are commercial airliners that much better at maintaining their aircraft? It seems like we hear about at least 3-4 crashes every year whereas it is very rare to hear about a civilian airliner crashing. When you factor in the number of civilian flights versus military flights it seems like we crash a lot more than they do. Anyone have any thoughts on this?
    I am much more inclined to blame this on CE because those guys have a reputation of going out to the ramp late at night to drink beer on the aircraft after they have been tossed out of the bars.

    I bet the investigation finds a Miller Lite can jammed into the avionics.

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    Maybe partly our perception, Guy. I think we pay more attention to the military crashes. Civilian airliner crashes happen several times a year. I guess we'd have to look at stats to really answer your question. Something like accidents/miles (or hours)? I don't know where to find them, though.

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    Default Re: B-1 crash in Montana

    There is a big difference between a 737 taking off, leveling off at cruise and then descending to land than a B-1 (insert military a/c) going through its flight profile.

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    Default Re: B-1 crash in Montana

    Quote Originally Posted by akruse View Post
    There is a big difference between a 737 taking off, leveling off at cruise and then descending to land than a B-1 (insert military a/c) going through its flight profile.
    I was going to mention this also, the "yank and bank" cycles on military ac have to stress the airframe a lot more than civ acft.

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    Default Re: B-1 crash in Montana

    Quote Originally Posted by akruse View Post
    There is a big difference between a 737 taking off, leveling off at cruise and then descending to land than a B-1 (insert military a/c) going through its flight profile.
    So the answer to my question is that we place much more stress on our aircraft? I assumed that was the case but kind of wanted to confirm.

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