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    Default Closing Commissaries

    What's everyone's thoughts on this? Walmart saying they can and will provide military the same prices the Commissary does. I am for it and I only wish they would take over worthless AAFES as well.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...027_story.html

    an executive at Wal-Mart reached out to Spencer with a proposal: The massive retailer would provide active-duty troops, their spouses and retirees with a discount equivalent to the commissary’s prices on the same goods in its stores. The company would apply the discount by scanning a shopper’s military identification card at the cash register.
    Last edited by grimreaper; 06-03-2013 at 01:29 AM.

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    Default Re: Closing Commissaries

    The irony of this is that Walmart itself is incredibly expensive to taxpayers, with the average supercenter consuming hundreds of thousands of dollars in government assistance.

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    Default Re: Closing Commissaries

    No Walmart in Germany or Japan. What now? Raise COLA for everyone? We see how great COLA adjusts to the dollar: when dollar goes up COLA goes down the next day; when dollar goes down COLA goes up...eventually.

    I want you to consider this about overseas commissaries that hire local nationals. In Germany, you hire a German. You have to follow Germany's labor laws, and those are ridiculous (up to three years paid for maternity leave, six months paid medical leave for "anxiety", etc). We use American tax dollars to pay that person. That person then takes their income and spends it on the German economy. Where is the real benefit to the taxpayer? It's money literally thrown out of the country for good. What other country does this on the level that the US does?

    There is your main problem with the budget and sequestration. You don't see LNs getting sequestered. Just Americans.

    And when I lived in Japan, telling me I had to live off of Japanese food: yuck. Forget it. I hated Japanese food.

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    Default Re: Closing Commissaries

    In the CONUS AAFES is worthless, except for military clothing, the barber shop, the gas station, and maybe the Class Six store.

    However, the commissary is an extremely valuable benefit. In my area it's probably stopped more Danny Holleys from happening - that's the boy who hung himself here in 1984 so there would be one less mouth to feed.

    Given a choice of losing one or the other in the CONUS, AAFES would go in a heartbeat.

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    Default Re: Closing Commissaries

    People on their individual missions to save the military money have been successfully duped by the powers that be.

    I am all for saving money, but until we start (President and staff) at the top and then work down...no plan for saving money means anything.

    Exhibits: (and this is only a small sample)

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...94J0V020130520

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/01...mid-criticism/

    http://dcclothesline.com/2013/05/31/...r-afghanistan/

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_2950062.html

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...ces-in-3-years

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ated/?page=all

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikepatt...wn-a-rat-hole/

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    Default Re: Closing Commissaries

    If the commissary closed at Elmendorf, we'd be screwed! Buying groceries at Carrs Safeway and Fred Meyer is awfully expensive in comparison, so that only leaves Costco, which I hate going to with a passion.

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    Default Re: Closing Commissaries

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Bonham View Post
    The irony of this is that Walmart itself is incredibly expensive to taxpayers, with the average supercenter consuming hundreds of thousands of dollars in government assistance.
    In what manner?

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    Default Re: Closing Commissaries

    Quote Originally Posted by garhkal View Post
    In what manner?
    Many employees don't make enough to stay off food stamps and Medicaid.

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    Those who are out on individual missions to save the military have been successfully duped by the powers that be. Closing commissaries and cutting thermostats up to 80 degrees in the summer (Robins AFB, GA) is not going to save us from economic collapse.

    I am all for saving money, but until it starts at the very top (President and staff) and works it way down..."savings" mean nothing because it's all smoke and mirrors now.

    Exhibits: (And this is just a small sample)
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...94J0V020130520

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/01...mid-criticism/

    http://dcclothesline.com/2013/05/31/...r-afghanistan/

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_2950062.html

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...ces-in-3-years

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ated/?page=all

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikepatt...wn-a-rat-hole/

    Quote Originally Posted by OtisRNeedleman View Post
    Many employees don't make enough to stay off food stamps and Medicaid.
    That is their business model.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/0...o-Walmart-jobs

    http://walmart1percent.org/top-reaso...-job-creators/

    Despite all the damage they have done to US workers and communities, a 2007 study found that, as of that date, Walmart had received more than $1.2 billion in tax breaks, free land, infrastructure assistance, low-cost financing and outright grants from state and local governments around the country.[9] This number has surely increased as Walmart continues to receive additional subsidies.
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    Default Re: Closing Commissaries

    Quote Originally Posted by Drackore View Post
    No Walmart in Germany or Japan. What now? Raise COLA for everyone? We see how great COLA adjusts to the dollar: when dollar goes up COLA goes down the next day; when dollar goes down COLA goes up...eventually.

    I want you to consider this about overseas commissaries that hire local nationals. In Germany, you hire a German. You have to follow Germany's labor laws, and those are ridiculous (up to three years paid for maternity leave, six months paid medical leave for "anxiety", etc). We use American tax dollars to pay that person. That person then takes their income and spends it on the German economy. Where is the real benefit to the taxpayer? It's money literally thrown out of the country for good. What other country does this on the level that the US does?

    There is your main problem with the budget and sequestration. You don't see LNs getting sequestered. Just Americans.

    And when I lived in Japan, telling me I had to live off of Japanese food: yuck. Forget it. I hated Japanese food.
    In the link posted, the article said that overseas Commissaries would remain.

    He limited his focus to the 179 commissaries that are in the United States. He had no interest in closing grocery stores on overseas bases, where personnel do not always have access to private shops that sell low-priced American products.
    Last edited by grimreaper; 06-03-2013 at 02:49 AM.

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