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    Default Reduced flying hours forces grounding of 17 USAF combat air squadrons - AF Times

    http://www.airforcetimes.com/article...-air-squadrons

    I like this. In the short-term, standing down these flying squadrons will allow the maintainers a chance to catch up on fixing these broken-down jets. Once that's done these people can (temporarily) augment the other aircraft maintenance units to bring their manning up to a more realistic level. This will reduce wearing out the people faster than the jets. Thoughts anyone?

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    Default Re: Reduced flying hours forces grounding of 17 USAF combat air squadrons - AF Times

    Should be fun managing a phase flow when one of the squadrons quit flying in a wing. Even more fun when the squadrons starts flying again in October.

    Also, imagine the hangar queen nightmare this is going to cause. A lot of maintenance is required for two cases; when a jet flies too much, and when a jet sits too long. Hopefully leadership is smart and rotates jets between the flying and grounded squadrons.

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    Default Re: Reduced flying hours forces grounding of 17 USAF combat air squadrons - AF Times

    Guess now there will be plenty of time for PT. No more bitchin'!

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    Default Re: Reduced flying hours forces grounding of 17 USAF combat air squadrons - AF Times

    More hyperbole...

    “Historically, the Air Force has not operated under a tiered readiness construct because of the need to respond to any crisis within a matter of hours or days,” Hostage said in the statement. “The current situation means we’re accepting the risk that combat airpower may not be ready to respond immediately to new contingencies as they occur.”
    This is nonsense. There are units specifically setup for responding to immediate crisis... Reference, the B-2's and F-22's that recently flew to South Korea for political reasons.

    Standing down routine training flying is not that big of deal. If pilots lose their certs that is because the rules to begin with are overbearing or poor management of the time and resources you do have.

    This nonsense is nothing but political hyperbole.
    Last edited by VFFTSGT; 04-09-2013 at 04:02 PM.

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    Default Re: Reduced flying hours forces grounding of 17 USAF combat air squadrons - AF Times

    Quote Originally Posted by VFFTSGT View Post
    More hyperbole...



    This is nonsense. There are units specifically setup for responding to immediate crisis... Reference, the B-2's and F-22's that recently flew to South Korea for political reasons.

    Standing down routine training flying is not that big of deal. If pilots lose their certs that is because the rules to begin with are overbearing or poor management of the time and resources you do have.

    This nonsense is nothing but political hyperbole.
    The F-22s were already in-theater for a standard AEF rotation. (They also appeared at an Australian airshow.) The squadron in question will be grounded upon return to Langley. The other squadron will be reduced to basic mission capable.

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    Default Re: Reduced flying hours forces grounding of 17 USAF combat air squadrons - AF Times

    Quote Originally Posted by ConfusedAirman View Post
    The F-22s were already in-theater for a standard AEF rotation. (They also appeared at an Australian airshow.) The squadron in question will be grounded upon return to Langley. The other squadron will be reduced to basic mission capable.

    Doesn't change the hyperbole.

    Ever since 9/11 the military industrial complex has grown and every SSgt and Commander with a great idea has spent billions of dollars on waste. Example: My last base went through THREE different barrier systems at the gates in my 4 years there. We are talking, digging up the road and replacing the system with a different one every time.

    It's about time something gets reined in...

    This exaggeration about the world is going to fall apart because we cannot fly is nonsense. It’s more nonsense than all the “savings” found in EPR bullets.

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    Default Re: Reduced flying hours forces grounding of 17 USAF combat air squadrons - AF Times

    This is just the beginning of the collapse of our security and economy. You can't have a strong defense without a strong economy---both compliment each other and are the twin pillars of our republic, nation, culture and civilization. You're going to see even more erosion of defense capabilities as the economy fails to grow and expand. The size of the aircraft fleets and airmen billets will be reduced. I imagine if you're working a support job, you are on the first list to be told "buh-bye". Handing out basketballs in the base gym and enjoying your shaving waiver? Buh-bye! Working in a protocol job and serve no real purpose? Buh-bye! Can't pass your PT exams, weight checks and you got a referral EPR? Buh-bye! Thank you for flying Total Bastard Airlines!

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    Default Re: Reduced flying hours forces grounding of 17 USAF combat air squadrons - AF Times

    I wonder if those fellows handing out basketballs and enjoying their shaving waivers are renters. Hmm.

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    Default Re: Reduced flying hours forces grounding of 17 USAF combat air squadrons - AF Times

    Yes, they are---they are living rent free in housing on base. My next door neighbor is a renter. He's a responsible Air Force Officer with a lovely family and we love him and his family.

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    Default Re: Reduced flying hours forces grounding of 17 USAF combat air squadrons - AF Times

    Quote Originally Posted by VFFTSGT View Post
    More hyperbole...



    This is nonsense. There are units specifically setup for responding to immediate crisis... Reference, the B-2's and F-22's that recently flew to South Korea for political reasons.

    Standing down routine training flying is not that big of deal. If pilots lose their certs that is because the rules to begin with are overbearing or poor management of the time and resources you do have.

    This nonsense is nothing but political hyperbole.
    You have absolutely zero clue as to what you are talking about. Again, stick to the stuff you are somewhat educated on.

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