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    Default Distribution of Enlisted Ranks

    There have been several discussions about promotion and promotion potential, so I thought some of you may be interested in seeing how the different services distribute the enlisted ranks. All numbers are based on the latest report of FEB 2013. This table shows how many of each rank are serving and the percentage that rank is of the total enlisted force.



    ARMY
    E9 3,687 0.84%
    E8 12,524 2.86%
    E7 40,806 9.31%
    E6 63,370 14.46%
    E5 82,287 18.77%
    E4 134,817 30.76%
    E3 59,738 13.63%
    E2 27,333 6.24%
    E1 13,785 3.14%
    Total 438,347

    NAVY
    E9 2,327 0.89%
    E8 5,701 2.19%
    E7 19,986 7.67%
    E6 46,387 17.80%
    E5 60,275 23.13%
    E4 51,246 19.67%
    E3 48,836 18.74%
    E2 14,506 5.57%
    E1 11,317 4.34%
    Total 260,581 %

    MARINES
    E9 1,608 0.93%
    E8 3,955 2.28%
    E7 9,012 5.20%
    E6 16,121 9.31%
    E5 27,855 16.08%
    E4 34,170 19.73%
    E3 47,836 27.62%
    E2 22,102 12.76%
    E1 10,563 6.10%
    Total 173,222

    AIR FORCE
    E9 2,593 0.97%
    E8 5,054 1.90%
    E7 26,711 10.04%
    E6 42,195 15.86%
    E5 67,843 25.50%
    E4 56,162 21.11%
    E3 51,285 19.28%
    E2 4,232 1.59%
    E1 9,929 3.73%
    Total 266,004

    Notice the different "cliffs" that appear. The Army and Navy show a large drop from E6 to E7. The Marines show this drop from E5 to E6. The Air Force shows the drop from E7 to E8.

    To show in another way, I will try to show it as a simple ASCII bargraph in which each "|" represents 1 percentage point:

    ARMY
    E9 - |
    E8 - |||
    E7 - |||||||||
    E6 - ||||||||||||||
    E5 - |||||||||||||||||||
    E4 - |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
    E3 - ||||||||||||||
    E2 - ||||||
    E1 - |||

    NAVY
    E9 - |
    E8 - ||
    E7 - ||||||||
    E6 - ||||||||||||||||||
    E5 - |||||||||||||||||||||||
    E4 - ||||||||||||||||||||
    E3 - |||||||||||||||||||
    E2 - ||||||
    E1 - ||||

    USMC
    E9 - |
    E8 - ||
    E7 - |||||
    E6 - |||||||||
    E5 - ||||||||||||||||
    E4 - ||||||||||||||||||||
    E3 - ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
    E2 - |||||||||||||
    E1 - ||||||

    USAF
    E9 - |
    E8 - ||
    E7 - ||||||||||
    E6 - ||||||||||||||||
    E5 - ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
    E4 - |||||||||||||||||||||
    E3 - |||||||||||||||||||
    E2 - ||
    E1 - ||||

    There are definite differences in "center mass".
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    Default Re: Distribution of Enlisted Ranks

    interesting... shows that while there are some differences, they aren't huge and make sense when you apply them to that service.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrustySMSgt View Post
    interesting... shows that while there are some differences, they aren't huge and make sense when you apply them to that service.
    Agreed, and adding to that I think there's some proportionality to the percentage technical MOS/Ratings in the parent service to the center mass as well as the paygrade where servicemembers are first being assigned into leadership positions. For instance, in the USMC E3's are likely to begin getting their feet wet in a lot of leadership roles, Whereas in the USN that doesn't get as much play until E4/E5, I can't speak to the USAF but I imagine it also would reflect a bit closer to what the USN is doing, with the Army falling probably a bit short of the USN/USAF in that regard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AJBIGJ View Post
    Agreed, and adding to that I think there's some proportionality to the percentage technical MOS/Ratings in the parent service to the center mass as well as the paygrade where servicemembers are first being assigned into leadership positions. For instance, in the USMC E3's are likely to begin getting their feet wet in a lot of leadership roles, Whereas in the USN that doesn't get as much play until E4/E5, I can't speak to the USAF but I imagine it also would reflect a bit closer to what the USN is doing, with the Army falling probably a bit short of the USN/USAF in that regard.
    Sounds about right. With more technically oriented skills being a preponderance of what the Navy & AF do, it makes sense that the bulk of the manning being in the NCO range, focusing on retaining skilled technicians.

    No surprise the Army's peak is at the E4 grade, with their extensive use of the Specialist rank.
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    I appreciate the input. I was hoping for comments from across the services to get perspective. I may do similar numbers for officers if there is interest.
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    I guess it's just as hard to make E-2 as it is E-8!!! Very competitive there at E-2

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    Quote Originally Posted by efmbman View Post
    Notice the different "cliffs" that appear. The Army and Navy show a large drop from E6 to E7. The Marines show this drop from E5 to E6. The Air Force shows the drop from E7 to E8.
    Incidentally, those promotions in each service are also the first in which a selection board is required for promotion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by efmbman View Post
    I appreciate the input. I was hoping for comments from across the services to get perspective. I may do similar numbers for officers if there is interest.
    Please do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Jones View Post
    Incidentally, those promotions in each service are also the first in which a selection board is required for promotion.
    I was not aware of that. I knew in the Army that "centralized" promotions begin from E6 to E7. That does make sense, Rusty - thanks for pointing that out. For the lower ranks, I guess if you have not murdered anyone you will eventually make it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by efmbman View Post
    I was not aware of that. I knew in the Army that "centralized" promotions begin from E6 to E7. That does make sense, Rusty - thanks for pointing that out. For the lower ranks, I guess if you have not murdered anyone you will eventually make it.
    I think you can still make it even if you do murder someone. I don't think there's a Commander's slide for that, so all should be good.

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