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    Trump Administration: 2 year SITREP

    So where are we on the Trump Presidency?

    No argument that DJT has remained true to himself and his candidacy, the anti-Barack Obama. He has not become "more Presidential", as was hoped and he stated he would do.

    Economically: DJT presides over a strong economy with unemployment at its lowest rate for half a century, there is and should be some roll over from the Obama Administration (things don't happen overnight), but he does deserve credit. He did approve a tax cut, which arguably contributed to the national debt rising from $19T to $21.7T, anticipated to grow to $23T by the end of the year. He promised but has not moved on designating China a currency manipulator. He has increased oil and gas production in the US.

    Border Security: There is no wall ... yet. Currently the government is shutdown over a standoff for $5.7B in funding for the wall.

    Affordable Care Act / Obamacare: Largely remains intact with a federal judge recently declaring the ACA unconstitutional if the penalty is eliminated. That judge has issued a stay on the decision for now. If that decision stands, there is no legislative solution to replace the health care law (repeal AND replace). Polling suggests the ACA is more popular than it was in the past, specifically with people who previously opposed it; enrollment dipped less than 5 percent this year, even though there's no longer a tax penalty (fine) for people who go without insurance.

    Infrastructure: No movement on a campaign promise to initiate a $1T infrastructure program.

    Increase military spending: Done. Largely increased military spending across DoD.

    Judicial reform: Probably his greatest & longest lasting accomplishment (one I think he should / could tout more often). 2 new SCOTUS Justices, 29 Circuit Court Justices. In DJT's third year in office, he is likely to have fewer positions to fill because he has already named judges for many of the vacancies he inherited from BHO. The long term impacts are a more conservative federal judiciary. If he gets another SCOTUS Justice, that will likely move the court from center-right to Conservative ... for a generation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjölnir View Post
    So where are we on the Trump Presidency?

    No argument that DJT has remained true to himself and his candidacy, the anti-Barack Obama. He has not become "more Presidential", as was hoped and he stated he would do.

    Economically: DJT presides over a strong economy with unemployment at its lowest rate for half a century, there is and should be some roll over from the Obama Administration (things don't happen overnight), but he does deserve credit. He did approve a tax cut, which arguably contributed to the national debt rising from $19T to $21.7T, anticipated to grow to $23T by the end of the year. He promised but has not moved on designating China a currency manipulator. He has increased oil and gas production in the US.

    Border Security: There is no wall ... yet. Currently the government is shutdown over a standoff for $5.7B in funding for the wall.

    Affordable Care Act / Obamacare: Largely remains intact with a federal judge recently declaring the ACA unconstitutional if the penalty is eliminated. That judge has issued a stay on the decision for now. If that decision stands, there is no legislative solution to replace the health care law (repeal AND replace). Polling suggests the ACA is more popular than it was in the past, specifically with people who previously opposed it; enrollment dipped less than 5 percent this year, even though there's no longer a tax penalty (fine) for people who go without insurance.

    Infrastructure: No movement on a campaign promise to initiate a $1T infrastructure program.

    Increase military spending: Done. Largely increased military spending across DoD.

    Judicial reform: Probably his greatest & longest lasting accomplishment (one I think he should / could tout more often). 2 new SCOTUS Justices, 29 Circuit Court Justices. In DJT's third year in office, he is likely to have fewer positions to fill because he has already named judges for many of the vacancies he inherited from BHO. The long term impacts are a more conservative federal judiciary. If he gets another SCOTUS Justice, that will likely move the court from center-right to Conservative ... for a generation.
    Where I am is as follows:

    I just don't care. My life has never been more than slightly different over the last 5 Presidents. In the long run, it's much ado about nothing. All anyone care about is who they can blame, not what the actual outcome is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AF sgt View Post
    Where I am is as follows:

    I just don't care. My life has never been more than slightly different over the last 5 Presidents. In the long run, it's much ado about nothing. All anyone care about is who they can blame, not what the actual outcome is.
    There are plenty of people who just want someone to blame. I think there are plenty of people concerned about outcomes, the reasons likely vary from selfish to unselfish ones ... but concern is there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjölnir View Post
    There are plenty of people who just want someone to blame. I think there are plenty of people concerned about outcomes, the reasons likely vary from selfish to unselfish ones ... but concern is there.
    Outcomes of what, though? What ever changes? We get 4 years of bluster, 4 years of opposition, and then we move on to another 4 years of the same. It's hard to take it seriously. Hell, now the Dems are the ones bitching about a Republican administration pulling troops out of certain locations. I always thought it was the Republicans who were supposed to bitch about the Dems doing it. It's just all so ridiculous that I can't pretend anything will ever be different, other than the party that gets the blame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AF sgt View Post
    Outcomes of what, though? What ever changes? We get 4 years of bluster, 4 years of opposition, and then we move on to another 4 years of the same. It's hard to take it seriously. Hell, now the Dems are the ones bitching about a Republican administration pulling troops out of certain locations. I always thought it was the Republicans who were supposed to bitch about the Dems doing it. It's just all so ridiculous that I can't pretend anything will ever be different, other than the party that gets the blame.
    I am optimistic that the hyper polarization can change but realistic about what you describe. Too many politicians are concerned about ‘sides’ than effective outcomes. Too many who want to take a stance based on opposition to the other side vice actual principle. What outcomes? Better society, preservation of freedoms, equal opportunities (not necessarily equal outcomes) ... basic stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjölnir View Post
    What outcomes? Better society, preservation of freedoms, equal opportunities (not necessarily equal outcomes) ... basic stuff.
    That's not very specific, though. That almost sounds like what a politician would promise in the middle of a campaign. What you stay there is something that everyone in the country would agree on. The disagreement comes on how you reach it. That will always be split.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjölnir View Post
    So where are we on the Trump Presidency?

    No argument that DJT has remained true to himself and his candidacy, the anti-Barack Obama. He has not become "more Presidential", as was hoped and he stated he would do.
    But what does "being more presidential" mean?? Kissing up to the press? Failing those who voted him in, by 'compromising' with the opposition??

    Quote Originally Posted by Mjölnir View Post
    Economically: DJT presides over a strong economy with unemployment at its lowest rate for half a century, there is and should be some roll over from the Obama Administration (things don't happen overnight), but he does deserve credit. He did approve a tax cut, which arguably contributed to the national debt rising from $19T to $21.7T, anticipated to grow to $23T by the end of the year. He promised but has not moved on designating China a currency manipulator. He has increased oil and gas production in the US.
    On this alone, i hope he will get re-elected.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mjölnir View Post
    Border Security: There is no wall ... yet. Currently the government is shutdown over a standoff for $5.7B in funding for the wall.
    And as long as the dems keep opposing him, it shows they have LITTLE to no desire to ever secure our borders.. When THEY mention "but we support border security, it seems to ONLY be in favor of more lawyers, more medics and the like to PROCESS into the US, those they catch. NOT Stopping them coming in..
    So i am HOPING to hell, he holds his red-line on this.. And does NOT cave in, granting amnesty, like the dems demand.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mjölnir View Post
    Affordable Care Act / Obamacare: Largely remains intact with a federal judge recently declaring the ACA unconstitutional if the penalty is eliminated. That judge has issued a stay on the decision for now. If that decision stands, there is no legislative solution to replace the health care law (repeal AND replace). Polling suggests the ACA is more popular than it was in the past, specifically with people who previously opposed it; enrollment dipped less than 5 percent this year, even though there's no longer a tax penalty (fine) for people who go without insurance.
    Its like with most things. Once people get a taste of the entitlement (the ACA's giving subsidies etc to those of lower income), its HARD to get people off it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mjölnir View Post
    Infrastructure: No movement on a campaign promise to initiate a $1T infrastructure program.
    Again, because of the dems stalling.

    Judicial reform: Probably his greatest & longest lasting accomplishment (one I think he should / could tout more often). 2 new SCOTUS Justices, 29 Circuit Court Justices. In DJT's third year in office, he is likely to have fewer positions to fill because he has already named judges for many of the vacancies he inherited from BHO. The long term impacts are a more conservative federal judiciary. If he gets another SCOTUS Justice, that will likely move the court from center-right to Conservative ... for a generation. [/quote]

    Which imo is why the left is PRAYING like crazy, RBG doesn't die soon, so he can't get a 3rd pick to sit on the scotus.

    Quote Originally Posted by AF sgt View Post
    Outcomes of what, though? What ever changes? We get 4 years of bluster, 4 years of opposition, and then we move on to another 4 years of the same. It's hard to take it seriously. Hell, now the Dems are the ones bitching about a Republican administration pulling troops out of certain locations. I always thought it was the Republicans who were supposed to bitch about the Dems doing it. It's just all so ridiculous that I can't pretend anything will ever be different, other than the party that gets the blame.
    Which is why so many folk i know, seem to think there's NO REAL difference in actual party. BOTH do the same.


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    Understanding that government can give nothing to anyone without first taking it from someone else and that some things are not the role of the government:

    -get govt spending under control, we are digging a hole we may never be able to get out of.
    -reduce the size of government, cut dead weight, fire / retire non-performers.
    I would like to start with
    A) Getting rid of depts NOT called for in the constitution. Such as the EPA< Dept of education, NSA.
    B) all these federal workers "Furloed" because they are seen as "NON ESSENTIAL". WELL if they are non-essential, WHY ARE THEY HIRED in the first place!
    C) Pass a law requiring a balanced budget.
    D) Pass another law saying if congress shuts down, NO CONGRESSMAN GETS PAID!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mjölnir View Post
    -incentivize work vice hand outs, reduce the welfare state.
    Oh hell. You just triggered 90% of the left.. "Entitlement reform always seems to be off limits".. BUT ITS SOMETHING WE DAMN WELL NEED!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mjölnir View Post
    -unscrew education; not everyone needs college but more and more lack the basic skills / knowledge to even pursue a trade. Fewer poses critical thinking skills but regurgitate what they hear from [fill in the blank].
    How's about focusing on TRADE SCHOOLS.. More so than useless college degrees! BUT then with 85% of the colleges, being lock step into the liberal agenda, of course those there, won't have any critical thinking skills.. HENCE why i say get rid of the Dept of indoctrination!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mjölnir View Post
    -relearn the meaning of compromise, if we are going to force everyone to have the same idea ... that is totalitarianism which is not what I have spent the last 27 years defending.
    IMO the DEMS are the only ones who need to learn that. For far too long they feel a compromise is WE GIVE THEM everything, they give us nothing.

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    [QUOTE=garhkal;371422]But what does "being more presidential" mean?? [QUOTE]

    I love when people act like DJT should 'act more presidential.' If an astronaut on the ISS decides to make goofy faces and fart during a live press interview, are we going to say, "he needs to act more like an astronaut!"? No, he's an astronaut....period. If Mick Jagger decides during a concert to sing "My Heart will go on" in a surprise duet with Celine Dion, are we going to say, "Mick needs to act more like a Rock Star!"? The answer is no, because he's a rock star....period.

    If the POTUS does anything, he's still the POTUS. There is no such thing as acting more like one or less than one. That said, this POTUS has communicated more directly to his voter base (via twitter) than any POTUS in US History. Is this MORE 'presidential' or less? Neither. He's the POTUS.

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    [QUOTE=FLAPS;371424][QUOTE=garhkal;371422]But what does "being more presidential" mean??

    I love when people act like DJT should 'act more presidential.' If an astronaut on the ISS decides to make goofy faces and fart during a live press interview, are we going to say, "he needs to act more like an astronaut!"? No, he's an astronaut....period. If Mick Jagger decides during a concert to sing "My Heart will go on" in a surprise duet with Celine Dion, are we going to say, "Mick needs to act more like a Rock Star!"? The answer is no, because he's a rock star....period.

    If the POTUS does anything, he's still the POTUS. There is no such thing as acting more like one or less than one. That said, this POTUS has communicated more directly to his voter base (via twitter) than any POTUS in US History. Is this MORE 'presidential' or less? Neither. He's the POTUS.
    More Presidential doesn't mean not communicating by Twitter. BHO used it pretty well, DJT uses it very effectively. Unfortunately, DJT has mpt risen to the dignity of the office, something he is a temporary occupant of ... something he actually directly addressed but (IMO) hasn't done. I am not saying compromise who you are ... but POTUS using social medial to call people "stupid", "dummy", "clown", "lightweight" or whining about being all alone etc. isn't what I expect of POTUS; especially when some of the people are of his own party and he needed them for legislation. GWB, BHO both did a pretty good job of keeping their personality and not demeaning the office; something I think DJT does with his behavior. Yes, he is POTUS and only accountable to himself and voters. But, when he was asked about it, he said he would rise to the office and has failed to do so, making excuses for him is no different than liberals that excused issues with BHO or WJC ... but because it is a different party is it ... 'different'?
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    To be fair, He said that he could be presidential. Not that he would....

    & Really can you blame him? Because, since the 1st minute of the inauguration, He's been under constant attack from every angle. and not just from the Dems either.

    rino Republicans like Paul Ryan & The Alzeheimers patient McCain (who called for a total repeal of Obamacare and Closing open borders, for the last damn decade) But, didn't do shit to fix it, when they had the chance, slow walked the agenda from the get-go.

    Then you've got the totally biased far-left, media assholes and their shills grandstanding, lying by commission and omission, and the "do no evil" big -tech global oligarchs, censuring all opposition and creating algorithms.... Promoting the "WHITE BAD.....Everyone else good" Narrative....

    All things considered....Have to give him a B- and Thank God, that someone in the GOP finally grew some balls.
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