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    Quote Originally Posted by Bos Mutus View Post
    If it is purely speech..such as you might do at one of your rallies, then yes, it is protected.
    Well, Rainmaker only went to 2 rallies. Last Nov in Sarasota (Zero protestors) and March in Tampa , Where there were a couple of Dumbass aunt Jemima lookin bitches and a few self hating, white-progressive pimply faced types (who look like Rainmaker's ass in the mirror).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainmaker View Post
    (who look like Rainmaker's ass in the mirror).


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    From the inside, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandsjames View Post
    From the inside, right?
    HUA = Head Up Ass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainmaker View Post
    No. Rainmaker insinuated that you were fat. Rainmaker never implied that you were black. But, it's becoming clear that, you're not too bright.


    So, I guess wearing the Pig socks to work, was meant to convey mutual respect and tolerance?




    He has the constitutional right to sit on his ass and demonstrate his overt disrespect for our country.

    That doesn't protect him from the consequences of his "free speech" & It wouldn't stop his employer from declaring his public views are inconsistent with the standards of conduct for their organization and firing his sorry ass.

    However, that won't happen because the NFL is now beholden to the Same Socialist Billionaire sponsors who fund hundreds of other liberal "progressive" causes.




    Hardly. Before my ancestors revolted, they risked their lives and advocated for the revolution anonymously.

    Because if they'd done otherwise, they would've been charged with seditious libel by the tyrannical monarchy.

    Kaepernick's not really in danger of losing anything. His Anti-American/Anti-White dogma is en-vogue today, so he'll be protected.

    Besides, It's not as if he said anything controversial. Like pointing out The Black mob violence, Black on White crime, and Rampant Black Criminality that's wildly out of proportion to their numbers in the general population.
    This was your first comment in your response to me:

    "Rainmaker would say that we're not still stuck in the 1960's and your children and grandchildren have gotten over $6 Trillion Dollars in Handouts from everybody else's children and grandchildren." You also didn't insinuate that I'm fat you asked if I'm fat. I'm not fat. It's becoming clear you're not too bright if you can't remember what you posted.

    You're right people can disagree with his protest - but that doesn't give them the right to harass or threaten any of these people who are kneeling from him on down to middle school kids. So you think it's ok that people are threatening to hang or lynch anywhere from college athletes to 11 year old football players? Yes the NFL could fire him if they wanted to. No one said they can't. But you don't get to tell someone HOW to use their rights and you and your like minded people don't get to threaten these people with death either.

    How is he or anyone else who is protesting anti-American? I'm pretty sure there's nothing more American than protesting injustice and tyranny.

    There is absolutely no way to have a logical debate with you at all so I'm done. You are a racist, bigoted, ignorant, sexist, homophobic asshole and that's all there is to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparks82 View Post
    you asked if I'm fat. I'm not fat. It's becoming clear you're not too bright if you can't remember what you posted.


    OK Olive. Pay close attention:

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    What say you to those people who were denied many rights until the civil rights movement?
    Rainmaker would say that we're not still stuck in the 1960's and your children and grandchildren have gotten over $6 Trillion Dollars in Handouts from everybody else's children and grandchildren.

    Quote Originally Posted by sparks82 View Post
    You are a racist, bigoted, ignorant, sexist, homophobic asshole and that's all there is to it
    Ok. Good. Now bring me a Sandwich and Make it quick!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sparks82 View Post

    I hope that officer gets charged. There was absolutely no reason for her to have shot him at all.

    Rainmaker said he'd reserve judgment on this Case until the FACTS come out.....

    And now we know, that the serial felon (Terence Crutcher) who was shot after driving his car into oncoming traffic and after ignoring multiple police commands (at gun-point).....Did in-fact have PCP in his system.....


    Tulsa police shooting: Victim had PCP in body

    http://fox13now.com/2016/10/12/tulsa...d-pcp-in-body/


    .......But, His Momma STILL says it doesn't matter because he's a good boy.


    Family of unarmed man says PCP finding "immaterial" to police shooting


    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/terence-...ng-immaterial/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainmaker View Post
    Rainmaker said he'd reserve judgment on this Case until the FACTS come out.....

    And now we know, that the serial felon (Terence Crutcher) who was shot after driving his car into oncoming traffic and after ignoring multiple police commands (at gun-point).....Did in-fact have PCP in his system.....


    Tulsa police shooting: Victim had PCP in body

    http://fox13now.com/2016/10/12/tulsa...d-pcp-in-body/


    .......But, His Momma STILL says it doesn't matter because he's a good boy.


    Family of unarmed man says PCP finding "immaterial" to police shooting


    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/terence-...ng-immaterial/

    All the news says is that they found PCP in his system in his autopsy - and PCP can stay in your system anywhere from 1-10 days and even detected in a hair follicle test up to 90 days after you use it. It doesn't say when he used it.

    "Another Shelby lawyer, Scott Wood, had said previously that the officer was so focused on Crutcher that she didn’t hear other officers near her before she fired her service weapon. Almost simultaneously, another officer fired a Taser at Crutcher as he moved toward his SUV." Really? She didn't hear any of them come up? None of them identified themselves to him as they walked up? Also his window was rolled up so I don't see how he was reaching into the car. Her story, via her lawyer, has changed a couple times already.

    She did get charged with manslaughter. The cause of death was ruled homicide. No I didn't see his mom quoted anywhere in that CBS article and his widow said they weren't surprised they found that in his system.

    The question at hand isn't was he on drugs or not. It is was the police officer's use of deadly force justified? That's what the question is that the jury has to decide. I find it very hard to believe she didn't hear two or three other officers when they all WALKED UP to him together and crowded him together. I believe one of them was directly behind her as she walked up.

    Where did any of the articles you posted say that he drove his car into oncoming traffic? None I have read. So you're saying that someone can get shot for a traffic violation now? Hmm odd.

    You still didn't prove anything that wasn't already known. Pretty sure being high on a drug isn't a death sentence from the cops. Nowhere in that video did he threaten any of those cops safety. I think someone had an itchy trigger finger. Obviously they have piss poor communication too if he got shot with a Taser and a gun at the same time. There was no need to shoot him in the chest. The Taser would have been fine.

    Some shootings are justified. This one doesn't appear to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparks82 View Post
    All the news says is that they found PCP in his system in his autopsy - and PCP can stay in your system anywhere from 1-10 days and even detected in a hair follicle test up to 90 days after you use it. It doesn't say when he used it.
    There was also PCP in his car and she suspected him to be high before the shooting.

    "Another Shelby lawyer, Scott Wood, had said previously that the officer was so focused on Crutcher that she didn’t hear other officers near her before she fired her service weapon. Almost simultaneously, another officer fired a Taser at Crutcher as he moved toward his SUV." Really? She didn't hear any of them come up? None of them identified themselves to him as they walked up? Also his window was rolled up so I don't see how he was reaching into the car. Her story, via her lawyer, has changed a couple times already.
    She was behind the vehicle, she couldn't see the window from her angle. She shot because of her own fear for her life, not your non-fear for her life.

    The question at hand isn't was he on drugs or not. It is was the police officer's use of deadly force justified? That's what the question is that the jury has to decide. I find it very hard to believe she didn't hear two or three other officers when they all WALKED UP to him together and crowded him together. I believe one of them was directly behind her as she walked up.
    A taser vs big man on PCP, the man wins every time. She was trained in spotting PCP use, she knew that the taser wasn't going to save her.

    Where did any of the articles you posted say that he drove his car into oncoming traffic? None I have read. So you're saying that someone can get shot for a traffic violation now? Hmm odd.
    You didn't see the video of his car parked in the middle of the road obstructing oncoming traffic? And he wasn't shot for "a traffic violation", just as TM wasn't shot for "getting skittles and tea", or Michael brown wasn't shot for "walking with his hands up". That is such BS use of language that its a total lie.

    You still didn't prove anything that wasn't already known. Pretty sure being high on a drug isn't a death sentence from the cops. Nowhere in that video did he threaten any of those cops safety. I think someone had an itchy trigger finger. Obviously they have piss poor communication too if he got shot with a Taser and a gun at the same time. There was no need to shoot him in the chest. The Taser would have been fine.
    Your actions while being high on that drug can be a death sentence when a cop feels their life is in danger.

    Some shootings are justified. This one doesn't appear to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WILDJOKER5 View Post
    There was also PCP in his car and she suspected him to be high before the shooting.

    She was behind the vehicle, she couldn't see the window from her angle. She shot because of her own fear for her life, not your non-fear for her life.

    A taser vs big man on PCP, the man wins every time. She was trained in spotting PCP use, she knew that the taser wasn't going to save her.

    You didn't see the video of his car parked in the middle of the road obstructing oncoming traffic? And he wasn't shot for "a traffic violation", just as TM wasn't shot for "getting skittles and tea", or Michael brown wasn't shot for "walking with his hands up". That is such BS use of language that its a total lie.

    Your actions while being high on that drug can be a death sentence when a cop feels their life is in danger.


    Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
    From what I've heard is that his car stalled in the road. There's audio of a woman calling who said that it appeared the car is stalled and the man got out of his car.

    The cop wasn't even on her way to that she was on her way to a domestic violence call and stopped.

    He sure wasn't shot for attacking the police. Also - she still knew the other cops were there. They walked up there together. That's on the video.

    Trayvon Martin shouldn't have gotten shot - Zimmerman wasn't even a cop. He was just a stupid, paranoid neighborhood watch idiot. I don't think those are the examples I would use.

    Here's the problem with police ability of use of force. They just have to "feel" threatened. Not actually be threatened. Not much oversight there. Yet when I was in Iraq both times our ROE was much stricter and our motto is "protect and serve."

    No one knows the true stats of officer related shootings because, as even FBI Director Comey stated, no one is required to report it to the FBI. Maybe that's something the FBI should mandate...since we have stats for all kinds of trivial bullshit no one cares about.

    I still fail to see anything in these updates that shows she was justified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WILDJOKER5 View Post
    There was also PCP in his car and she suspected him to be high before the shooting.

    She was behind the vehicle, she couldn't see the window from her angle. She shot because of her own fear for her life, not your non-fear for her life.

    A taser vs big man on PCP, the man wins every time. She was trained in spotting PCP use, she knew that the taser wasn't going to save her.
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