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    Quote Originally Posted by sandsjames View Post
    No, because if it would have been a male cop you would have blamed the black guy and justified the cop...but because it's a female cop you're all for bringing down the hammer in the name of "fairness".
    Actually, I called for the cop who shot the man laying on the street with his hands up while the mentally disturbed guy played with a toy truck to be prosecuted. I said George Zimmerman should have been tried. You use that word "if" like you are a mind reader or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WILDJOKER5 View Post
    Actually, I called for the cop who shot the man laying on the street with his hands up while the mentally disturbed guy played with a toy truck to be prosecuted. I said George Zimmerman should have been tried. You use that word "if" like you are a mind reader or something.
    Got it...so here's your list of people you support, in descending order:

    Mentally disabled
    White Male Cops
    Blacks
    Hispanics
    Females

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandsjames View Post
    Got it...so here's your list of people you support, in descending order:

    Mentally disabled
    White Male Cops
    Blacks
    Hispanics
    Females
    Hmmm, not sure how you arrive at that? But hey, you keep looking at things that make us different while I look at the situations people are in to judge accordingly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WILDJOKER5 View Post

    I don't care about that "story" honestly. If he wants to sit, then fine by me. He is free to do whatever and it so stupid to make something out of it. If he wants to march with BLM over thugs being killed by cops, let him be.
    If you do not care why did you repeat such an idiotic lie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeKerriii View Post
    If you do not care why did you repeat such an idiotic lie?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WILDJOKER5 View Post
    Having a weapon and acting like you have a weapon are the "before and after" thoughts. Hindsight is 20/20, good job falling into that fallacy. BTW, they did tase him first. But yeah, she needs to be prosecuted because we cant let her off the hook just because shes a woman.

    So...cops cant make mistakes like any other human? Most every story of a black guy being killed is due to the fact that he was resisting arrest or running with a weapon in his hand. This story is about an overly sensitive women with her finger on the trigger. Kap is an idiot, but its funny that he converts to islam right before he starts disrespecting the country.


    She needs the full weight of the law brought down on her and thrown in prison just like if she was male. Full time too to make sure things are truly equal between the sexes.
    He was tased AND shot at the same time. So you're saying that shooting was justified if she didn't even wait for him to be tased?

    "Most every story of a black guy being killed is due to the fact he was resisting arrest or running with a weapon in his hand." No. False. Not in this case. Not in the case of people who die in jail. Just saw a story of a man who died while in jail due to dehydration. They weren't even giving him water. There are some cases where they are resisting - black or white suspects. THIS guy in Tulsa was clearly not resisting when you watch the helicopter footage and the dashcam footage. In fact from the dashcam footage it looks like they crowd him so that the dashcam cant' show what's going on.

    That was murder plain and simple. He had his hands up. He was complying. He had no weapon. Even someone in the helicopter says clearly "That looks like a big bad dude." AND they were called for a traffic violation. For a car stalled in the road.

    Kapaernick hasn't disrespected his country either. I wasn't aware that using your constitutionally protected rights was disrespectful. There is no enforceable law that states you have to stand during the anthem. Do people like you forget how our country started. The Founders were traitors, insurgents and terrorists by definition. I'm not saying they were wrong to fight Britain but they used protest to fight injustice. They went to war to fight injustice. So how is that any different than people protesting today? There is racism in America. There is injustice against all types of people. So people are supposed to just sit back and take it?

    I'd say most of the time cops are doing the right thing. They are following procedure. But you have some like this dumb woman who don't show restraint. You have those who are bigots, racists and so on. You have those that abuse their power. It's like that in any career where you have some power. But people shouldn't be fighting back like this either: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/09/21...black-man.html.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainmaker View Post
    Well, Rainmaker hasn't seen one black "victim" of police violence yet, who didn't later turn out to be a thug.

    So, he'll reserve judgment (until the Facts of the case come out) and save his "outrage" for the Hundreds of Thousands of Whites, who'll become victims of rampant black criminality every year......


    You know? People Like Dot Dow.... The 83 year old, great grandmother, who was recently beaten, set on fire and then murdered by a black mob during an invasion at her home in Georgia.

    Maybe you've heard of her?


    http://www.wtvm.com/story/32856035/e...-invasion-dies


    The elderly Meriwether County woman who was brutally beaten and burned during a home invasion in early August has died.

    Dorothy Dow, 83, of Grantville, GA, passed away at 4:04 p.m. on Saturday at an Atlanta hospital, according to Meriwether County Coroner Johnny Worley. Worley said her death was a result of the injuries sustained in the attack. She had been hospitalized since she was beaten and set on fire on Aug. 4 in her Lone Oak home.

    Dow suffered two broken arms, lacerations to her face and head, broken fingers, and third-degree burns from the back of her head down her back. Dow, however, managed to put the fire out with a jug of water and dialed 911 despite her injuries. She was initially taken to Grady Memorial Hospital and underwent numerous surgeries.

    Cortavious Heard, Justin Grady, Shanquavious Cameron, Mina Ellery and Angel Harmon were arrested nearly one week after the crime
    Oh yeah you don't sound like a bigot at all...what the fuck does that have to do with cops who abuse their power and kill innocent people or who even kill suspects? Since when did the cops get to be judge, jury and executioner? They aren't. They enforce the law. That's their job. Protect and serve the public. Some of them aren't doing a very good job of that. Even if they are the minority of all cops in the country, why wouldn't you want to stop cops who are abusing their power?

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    Quote Originally Posted by garhkal View Post
    From what was reported on another site, he Was tazed by one of the male partners, but then the gal just shot him for no damn reason....
    So like you i hope she gets the book tossed at her..



    So punish her, to avoid a riot.. That sounds like extortion.
    I didn't say punish her to avoid a riot. I said if she doesn't that they probably will riot. The people in Tulsa are showing much more restraint than those in Charlotte - and that sounds more like the guy had a gun whereas in Tulsa he had no weapon and was complying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparks82 View Post
    He was tased AND shot at the same time. So you're saying that shooting was justified if she didn't even wait for him to be tased?
    I didn't say it was justified. I don't know what happened that day cause I wasn't there.

    "Most every story of a black guy being killed is due to the fact he was resisting arrest or running with a weapon in his hand." No. False. Not in this case. Not in the case of people who die in jail. Just saw a story of a man who died while in jail due to dehydration. They weren't even giving him water. There are some cases where they are resisting - black or white suspects. THIS guy in Tulsa was clearly not resisting when you watch the helicopter footage and the dashcam footage. In fact from the dashcam footage it looks like they crowd him so that the dashcam cant' show what's going on.
    Do you understand the word "most"? Would this one case be considered part of the meaning of "most"?

    That was murder plain and simple. He had his hands up. He was complying. He had no weapon. Even someone in the helicopter says clearly "That looks like a big bad dude." AND they were called for a traffic violation. For a car stalled in the road.
    This one very well can be homicide. When the cop gets her trial, if she is found guilty, I am sure you expect nothing less than a sentence comparable to what her male counterparts would get.

    Kapaernick hasn't disrespected his country either. I wasn't aware that using your constitutionally protected rights was disrespectful. There is no enforceable law that states you have to stand during the anthem. Do people like you forget how our country started. The Founders were traitors, insurgents and terrorists by definition. I'm not saying they were wrong to fight Britain but they used protest to fight injustice. They went to war to fight injustice. So how is that any different than people protesting today? There is racism in America. There is injustice against all types of people. So people are supposed to just sit back and take it?
    So, using your own methodology, Tim McVeigh was just like the founders too right? Look, like I said, I am ok with Kap kneeling, hell, I think its too idolism to give as much praise to the flag or country the way some people do, but why he is doing it is BS. This is the first borderline incident that has happened where the police have really been in the wrong for killing a black man in years.

    I'd say most of the time cops are doing the right thing. They are following procedure. But you have some like this dumb woman who don't show restraint. You have those who are bigots, racists and so on. You have those that abuse their power. It's like that in any career where you have some power. But people shouldn't be fighting back like this either: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/09/21...black-man.html.
    Show me where this woman was a bigot or racist. Or show me any other time in the past 10 years were the cops were bigots or racist. I would say idiots, sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sparks82 View Post
    Oh yeah you don't sound like a bigot at all...what the fuck does that have to do with cops who abuse their power and kill innocent people or who even kill suspects? Since when did the cops get to be judge, jury and executioner? They aren't. They enforce the law. That's their job. Protect and serve the public. Some of them aren't doing a very good job of that. Even if they are the minority of all cops in the country, why wouldn't you want to stop cops who are abusing their power?
    Enforcing the law comes with the ability to shot and kill those who would openly and blatantly not go to trial or custody and make it their goal to harm other people. Its better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6. You don't see cops being killed by other cops, cause once the suspect is dead and they are ordered to hand over their weapon, they comply.
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