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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Jones View Post
    But the other thing they teach is us that consent can be withdrawn at ANY time. Even DURING intercourse. That being said, even if you get drunk to have sex... wouldn't consent be automatically withdrawn as soon as you're intoxicated?
    Good question. I mean our intent was to get drunk so our inhibitions went so far down that it didn't matter what the girl looked like. Now I guess if you started to sober up, then figured out you wanted to say no, then that could be rape. Sometimes you should just pop a Viagra and a ruffy at the same time and just let her do all the work. Get put in her spank bank while you can forget what ever it was you saw.

    Here is a fun one for this thread. This kid being accused of rape was in jail for a year before being sentenced. No proof, just 13 "witnesses" from scorned girls.
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    http://mensviews.com/tyler-kost-a-fa...ming-evidence/

    The girls need to be sentenced and be in jail for the same length, if not more, than what Kyle has spent in jail. But since our laws give so many women privilege, they probably wont spend more than 30 days in jail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by garhkal View Post
    Yes and yes.. Well based on the letter of the law. However if based on how the justice system SEES things (and many in society), No and yes.



    Some of the situations i heard while working security in Bahrain, were on the opposite end of that.. Gal goes out intending to bonk hunk she is into, but winds up in the sack with him and someone else. She gets buck wild during the session, but wakes up later regretting doing both guys and crys foul.

    Though to me some of the worst ones i have heard were when both were underage, do the deed, keep the relationship going on till the guy is over age while she is still under, then dear ole dad finds out and grasses out the dude. Which is why several states over the past 10 or so years passed those romeo & Juliette laws..



    You yourself showed why being 'drunk' classes as can't consent. If they are inebriated, how can they be seen as competent to give consent?
    How did I show anything about being drunk *classifies as not consensual? I said the military teaches that but they are wrong. You can have a drink of alcohol and still consent. See what Art 120 says "freely given agreement to the conduct at issue." If someone is staggering around, unable to stand, not coherent obviously they can't consent. If they have had one drink, are coherent and aware of their surrounding they can consent.

    It's not about how much someone drank - alcohol effects everyone differently. It's about actions. You are legally drunk if you blow above the legal limit - doesn't mean you're physically drunk. I know people who are functional alcoholics who you wouldn't know they had consumed as much as they had unless you saw it.

    Point is the law doesn't say anything about if you have drank alcohol you can't consent to sex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WILDJOKER5 View Post
    http://mensviews.com/tyler-kost-a-fa...ming-evidence/

    The girls need to be sentenced and be in jail for the same length, if not more, than what Kyle has spent in jail. But since our laws give so many women privilege, they probably wont spend more than 30 days in jail.
    Really? The laws give women "so many privileges?" What exactly do we get? Have you forgotten the fact how long it took for domestic violence to even BE against the law? To be taken seriously by the police or prosecutors? Or that marital rape wasn't illegal until 1993 in all 50 states? 1993. Only for the last 23 years has it been illegal for someone to rape his or her spouse.

    This guy hasn't even gone to trial and that's because of the crimes he's charged with. The charges are sexual crimes against minors - that's why it has taken so long. Blame the courts and legal system for that one. It takes a long time for nearly any case to go to trial. Especially when a detective or investigator fucks it up and they have to reassign someone to the case. Or when minors are involved.

    I have yet to receive privileges legally for having a vagina.

    On this case you posted - if the girls get out of a sentence it won't be because they have vaginas. It's going to be because the police department investigator screwed up so badly on this case. I did some research into it outside that article. There are so many issues with this case - I'd be surprised if it doesn't get dismissed at trial. I'm very surprised the prosecutors are still pushing it honestly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Jones View Post
    But the other thing they teach is us that consent can be withdrawn at ANY time. Even DURING intercourse. That being said, even if you get drunk to have sex... wouldn't consent be automatically withdrawn as soon as you're intoxicated?
    It depends on your level of intoxication and what you're on. The laws clearly state that there has to be mutual consent between two coherent people. As I said elsewhere people's level of intoxication differs. Legally you can be intoxicated at a certain point but plenty of people are functional alcoholics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparks82 View Post
    You can have a drink of alcohol and still consent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Jones View Post
    But the other thing they teach is us that consent can be withdrawn at ANY time. Even DURING intercourse.
    Which i always found strange.

    Quote Originally Posted by WILDJOKER5 View Post
    http://mensviews.com/tyler-kost-a-fa...ming-evidence/

    The girls need to be sentenced and be in jail for the same length, if not more, than what Kyle has spent in jail. But since our laws give so many women privilege, they probably wont spend more than 30 days in jail.
    I actually doubt they will spend any time in jail, let alone more than 30..
    But like you i feel that those who make false accusation, especially ones like that where it was a massive conspiracy, should spend at least DOUBLE the time the guy(s) they falsely accused did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparks82 View Post
    Really? The laws give women "so many privileges?" What exactly do we get? Have you forgotten the fact how long it took for domestic violence to even BE against the law? To be taken seriously by the police or prosecutors? Or that marital rape wasn't illegal until 1993 in all 50 states? 1993. Only for the last 23 years has it been illegal for someone to rape his or her spouse.
    Point exactly, women calling rape is taken seriously, men however claiming rape or forced penetration is usually brushed aside. Men get abused about half the time as women in domestic fights, but there are still a total of 0 battered men's shelters. Over 75% of the time, women win full custody of children in divorces. Prostate cancer research receives less than half of breast cancer research, yet both cancers kill in the same respectable levels of each other. Women (teachers) who rape their students and are even pregnant with the student get less than half the time in jail than a man would for raping his student.

    This guy hasn't even gone to trial and that's because of the crimes he's charged with. The charges are sexual crimes against minors - that's why it has taken so long. Blame the courts and legal system for that one. It takes a long time for nearly any case to go to trial. Especially when a detective or investigator fucks it up and they have to reassign someone to the case. Or when minors are involved.
    Rights to a speedy trial, number 6. 2 years is far more than excessive for the kid to spend in jail, probably getting raped himself. Its not like they are going to find more evidence.

    I have yet to receive privileges legally for having a vagina.
    Got your kid? Maybe you just haven't used it properly yet. Kind of like someone who has tons on money in the bank or retirement hasn't withdrawn their nest egg and still works for everything they want.

    On this case you posted - if the girls get out of a sentence it won't be because they have vaginas. It's going to be because the police department investigator screwed up so badly on this case. I did some research into it outside that article. There are so many issues with this case - I'd be surprised if it doesn't get dismissed at trial. I'm very surprised the prosecutors are still pushing it honestly.
    Kind of like the Casey Anthony case, they just wont stop because then the public outcries will be deafening. Maybe a "Vagina lives matters" riot would break out 28 days later?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WILDJOKER5 View Post
    Point exactly, women calling rape is taken seriously, men however claiming rape or forced penetration is usually brushed aside. Men get abused about half the time as women in domestic fights, but there are still a total of 0 battered men's shelters. Over 75% of the time, women win full custody of children in divorces. Prostate cancer research receives less than half of breast cancer research, yet both cancers kill in the same respectable levels of each other. Women (teachers) who rape their students and are even pregnant with the student get less than half the time in jail than a man would for raping his student.

    Rights to a speedy trial, number 6. 2 years is far more than excessive for the kid to spend in jail, probably getting raped himself. Its not like they are going to find more evidence.

    Got your kid? Maybe you just haven't used it properly yet. Kind of like someone who has tons on money in the bank or retirement hasn't withdrawn their nest egg and still works for everything they want.


    Kind of like the Casey Anthony case, they just wont stop because then the public outcries will be deafening. Maybe a "Vagina lives matters" riot would break out 28 days later?
    That has everything to do with society and nothing to do with the law. I see how you so easily dismissed how long it took for women to even get equal treatment under the law. It took forever for women reporting rape to be taken seriously. To be being beaten up by their partners to be taken seriously. To being raped by their husbands to be taken seriously. Again 1993 before all 50 states outlawed marital rape.

    Yes it's fucking ridiculous that male victims are ignored. Yes it's ridiculous there are no male shelters. If I ever have the financial resources to do it, I will open one. I would love for their to be no need for shelters like that at all but that's not reality.

    They are beginning to address male victims more seriously but you know why that stigma exists? Because of other men. Because of the bullshit ideal that men can't show emotion or they're "weak" and "how can a tiny woman beat you up?"

    This case you posted of having him in jail isn't about finding more evidence. It was about the fact the alleged victims were minors. Did you read article about it? I know cases that are more minor than this that don't go to trial for a year.

    What does the Casey Anthony case have to do with any of this?

    What do you mean "got your kid?" Of course I got custody of my daughter - I'm the only parent with a stable job, a home, who takes her to all her doctor's appointments, who has health insurance to cover it and so on. But yes I got custody of her because I have a vagina. Not because her father is a now homeless drug addict with no job, no car, no license, nothing. Thanks vagina!

    No I don't use my gender in any way to "get ahead." I don't need to. Most women I know don't either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparks82 View Post
    That has everything to do with society and nothing to do with the law. I see how you so easily dismissed how long it took for women to even get equal treatment under the law. It took forever for women reporting rape to be taken seriously. To be being beaten up by their partners to be taken seriously. To being raped by their husbands to be taken seriously. Again 1993 before all 50 states outlawed marital rape.
    Because that's not part of "today", that is the past. And actually, women weren't always subjugated.

    But anyways, if women getting less jail time or winning in court for custody or being taken seriously on rape by the law enforcers is "society", then what would it be to get it considered "the law" in your mind?

    Yes it's fucking ridiculous that male victims are ignored. Yes it's ridiculous there are no male shelters. If I ever have the financial resources to do it, I will open one. I would love for their to be no need for shelters like that at all but that's not reality.
    Then you will face the strong back lash of women who think your inner misogyny was showing.

    They are beginning to address male victims more seriously but you know why that stigma exists? Because of other men. Because of the bullshit ideal that men can't show emotion or they're "weak" and "how can a tiny woman beat you up?"
    So if a guy went to a female officer, the reason she would blow him off would be because of the male officers?

    This case you posted of having him in jail isn't about finding more evidence. It was about the fact the alleged victims were minors. Did you read article about it? I know cases that are more minor than this that don't go to trial for a year.
    He was technically a minor when the acts were preformed. They kept him in jail with no chance of parole because its written in the law that "serious sexual crimes" don't get bail.

    What does the Casey Anthony case have to do with any of this?
    Public pressure to push for a jury and prosecution. The court and prosecutors aren't being "blind", they are following the pressure feminist have put on society to get this kid convicted, or at least tried, or else they will be called part of the "patriarchy" and voted out of office. Same public lynch mob that got George Zimmerman tried for something that should have never been brought to a grand jury.

    What do you mean "got your kid?" Of course I got custody of my daughter - I'm the only parent with a stable job, a home, who takes her to all her doctor's appointments, who has health insurance to cover it and so on. But yes I got custody of her because I have a vagina. Not because her father is a now homeless drug addict with no job, no car, no license, nothing. Thanks vagina!
    You are one of the few. Most of the time when the woman doesn't have the job, they still get custody. Especially in liberal lands like CA and NY.

    No I don't use my gender in any way to "get ahead." I don't need to. Most women I know don't either.
    You usually hang around people similar to yourself, so if you don't think you do it, then you wouldn't see in from your friends either.
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