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    Granted, you're going to see stuff like this everywhere you go on facebook. However... military groups seem to be more saturated with it, with very few - if anyone - calling them out.

    Army and Marine Corps pages tend to be the worst. Marine Corps pages tend to have the most vile comments of the two services; however, they're also more likely to get called out than on Army pages.

    I want to point out that, if I agree with only one thing that's being said by the commenters (and I only DO agree with ONE thing); it's that the carjacker needs to face justice. But that's it.

    Sparks82 said something to me about thinking that everyone is out to get the black men (which I've neither said, nor implied), but I'm gonna need her to consider this: I'm 36 years old, and I can only count on one hand the number of times someone has either said something blatantly racist to my face or knowingly said it in my presence. But it's all over the internet.

    What does this mean? That the very same people posting this stuff on facebook are the very same people who smile in my face and are very congenial during daily casual interaction. Any one of my white friends or coworkers (and, yes, I say friends - because if you look at some of these profiles, they have black friends who likely aren't aware of what's going on) could be saying or thinking these things; and I have no way of knowing who they are, other than finding out inadvertantly.

    Pretty scary thought, isn't it?
    Or your friends could absolutely not think any of the things that other strangers are posting on the Internet. You won't know unless you're a mind reader. Shit I bet I have friends or family who talk shit about me behind my back. How will I know? I won't unless I saw their FB message or read their mind or overheard them. I have had a former friend try to tell me some bs about what people think about me but that was after I called her out on something.

    I can't even see the article since I'm at work. It's all blocked out whatever you posted. But there are hateful ignorant people out there regardless of color of skin or religion or so on.

    Some of your comments have implied black people are victims and people are "out to get them" no matter what the situation is. That's my perception.

    People are shady and will lie to each other's faces. That's the way we work. That's how humans always have been. The only way it stops is if we live in a world like Invention of Lying.

    Honestly I've noticed a shift in the political thinking in the military. I think military members are neither left or right. I think they're fed up with both sides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Jones View Post
    I'm lying? Sorry, bud. You lied again. Trump said those in two different speeches that were made a year apart. The latter being said because he's trying to move to the middle since winning the nomination, while simultaneously trying to give the appearance that he's sticking to his guns.
    Citation needed. Give the full quote(s).


    This article did not give the stats on whites, it does not give the amount of murders that are black on black, and you know something else? It only discusses black men age 18-24 in the southern counties of Florida.

    You're gonna need something a bit better than that, WJ5.
    Politifact good enough?

    You don't need white deaths for those ages, cause when ever the discussion comes up about how bad cops killing blacks is, the discussion always turns to "why don't you care about black on black crime"? You've already admitted that blacks are mostly (90%) killed by other blacks.
    http://www.politifact.com/punditfact...n-americans-1/

    Again, it depends on the motive behind them. If you tell a retarded man that he's retarded, it may be true... but you were still doing it out of malevolence.
    So you are a mind reader now? If its just inferred, is it because you are racist or can I infer everything BLM says is hate filled and not be racist?

    So this supports what Trump said about Mexicans coming to the states being rapists? According to this very article:

    " Rape can be perpetrated by anyone along the way, including guides, fellow migrants, bandits or government officials, according to Fusion. Sometimes sex is used as a form of payment, when women and girls don’t have money to pay bribes."

    You lose again, WJ5.
    Is sex for payment, not rape? Sparks, whats your take on this?

    But yes, GUIDES, Fellow migrants, bandits (who probably cross over as well). And Gov officials cross over as well. This is more of a "rape culture" than anything the left tries to say about US universities. If there is a wall, and no more of this easy access for Mexicans to come across, wouldn't it stop all these rapes from occurring along the path?

    Nope, there was no "trickle down economics" before Reagan.
    Ever since Lincoln got the government paying for the building of railroads, the rich got richer. And good show of how you use the lefts terminology to label and lie about the right. Just like Marx coining the term "capitalist" to describe Americas economic policy. The left love labeling things huh?

    The black people who are suffering are really suffering from the reaction to a black man being in office. Black people are being punished for it. Remember all these companies, like Papa John's and Denny's talking about raising prices and cutting wages in reaction to Obamacare? When, let's face it: if their issue with Obama wasn't personal, they could've kept quiet on their price in increases. No one would have noticed a 33 cent price increased on a $12 menu item if they kept their mouths shut.
    Prove it. Stop with the conjecture, stop with the lies. Stop being the victim of your own making. Citation needed.

    If you are saying papa johns and dennys are the only places where blacks work, or only blacks work there, then you really do have a problem with generalizations. Businesses doing what is best for the company is not racism, its the free market. No company will stand by and take a hit to their profits willingly. They aren't UNICEFT. But then again, EVERYTHING is racist in your mind....except when a leftist does it right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Jones View Post




    The black people who are suffering are really suffering from the reaction to a black man being in office. Black people are being punished for it.
    Blacks have received trillions in Welfare tax $, Affirmative action, Special set asides etc. etc (read reparations),.... for the last 50 years, & are now claiming "repression" due to "White Racism" and "White Privilege"...... because the majority of White people elected and reelected a BLACK President?....... Cry me a river.

    The only thing these BLM idiots have succeeded in doing is turning Millions of Whites, who never had a racist bone in their body, into actual racists.

    Even some of the most Liberal whites I know ....the one's that were singing Kumbaya 8 years ago, are now saying that Blacks need to STFU and get a job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WILDJOKER5 View Post
    Citation needed. Give the full quote(s).
    My apologies, the emphasis on "not sending their best" is recent. In any case, the Mexicans who happen to be immigrants are still the ones being insulted. When you and Rainmaker talk about "black people do this, black people do that" - I don't do ANY of those things. Not sure if you or Rainmaker are aware of that, or even give two shits. In any case - here am: veteran, Air Force Reservist, have three degrees (yeah, I'm counting that CCAF that I got last week simply by transferring in all my undergrad credits), never used an illegal drug in my life (not even pot), I have three children - all of whom are born in wedlock, that I'm at home raising with my wife. I'm also GS-11 (Step 4) with the federal government.

    Do you think a cop knows any of this when he sees me walking down the street? Hell, whenever I express a liberal viewpoint on facebook, I'm met with accusations of being on welfare, etc, etc.

    With that being said, whether any immigrant participates in those illegal activities; they're STILL being accused of doing it and, as we all know, perception is reality, so that's how these immigrants will be treated.

    Politifact good enough?

    You don't need white deaths for those ages, cause when ever the discussion comes up about how bad cops killing blacks is, the discussion always turns to "why don't you care about black on black crime"? You've already admitted that blacks are mostly (90%) killed by other blacks.
    http://www.politifact.com/punditfact...n-americans-1/
    Are you complaining about something that people on YOUR side of the political spectrum always like to bring up? BTW, I "admitted" that people of ALL races are most likely to be murdered by someone of the same race.

    So you are a mind reader now?
    No, I have basic social skills. Apparently, you don't.

    If its just inferred, is it because you are racist or can I infer everything BLM says is hate filled and not be racist?
    Say what you want; whenever a conservative calls me, BLM, or any other person or group of people that speaks out against racism a "racist," it's nothing but gibberish to me. A conservative call anyone a racist is null and void before it even comes out of their mouths.

    Is sex for payment, not rape? Sparks, whats your take on this?
    Straw man. Neither I nor the article said that. You (and Donald Trump) are saying the Mexicans coming the borders the rapists. Sure, 80% of the females crossing may be victims of rape, but who's doing the raping? You and Donald Trump say it's the people crossing the border. That quote shows that it's opportunists taking advantage of people in a bad situation.

    But yes, GUIDES, Fellow migrants, bandits (who probably cross over as well). And Gov officials cross over as well. This is more of a "rape culture" than anything the left tries to say about US universities. If there is a wall, and no more of this easy access for Mexicans to come across, wouldn't it stop all these rapes from occurring along the path?
    LOL, "I want to build a wall in order to protect Mexican women! I care about women in Mexico, and this wall will ensure their safety!"

    Yeah, okay. THAT'S why Trump wants to build the wall, and THAT'S why you agree with it... right? I don't know who or what the fuck you think I am.

    Ever since Lincoln got the government paying for the building of railroads, the rich got richer. And good show of how you use the lefts terminology to label and lie about the right. Just like Marx coining the term "capitalist" to describe Americas economic policy. The left love labeling things huh?
    Oh, I'm sorry - was that Reaganomics? No? Weren't the taxes far more graduated then they are now, or any point since Reagan took office? Oh, they were? Then I guess there was zero point in mentioning this.

    Prove it. Stop with the conjecture, stop with the lies. Stop being the victim of your own making. Citation needed.

    If you are saying papa johns and dennys are the only places where blacks work, or only blacks work there, then you really do have a problem with generalizations. Businesses doing what is best for the company is not racism, its the free market. No company will stand by and take a hit to their profits willingly. They aren't UNICEFT. But then again, EVERYTHING is racist in your mind....except when a leftist does it right?
    Prove what? I'm not saying that's the only places where black people work. Of course... I'm sure that white conservatives working at these restaurants will GLADLY take a pay cut if they're convinced that the reasoning behind their pay cut has something to do with them being better than blacks and Latinos; so they don't really count. Why announce the reason for a negligible price increase unless you're trying to draw attention to it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Jones View Post
    My apologies, the emphasis on "not sending their best" is recent. In any case, the Mexicans who happen to be immigrants are still the ones being insulted. When you and Rainmaker talk about "black people do this, black people do that" - I don't do ANY of those things. Not sure if you or Rainmaker are aware of that, or even give two shits. In any case - here am: veteran, Air Force Reservist, have three degrees (yeah, I'm counting that CCAF that I got last week simply by transferring in all my undergrad credits), never used an illegal drug in my life (not even pot), I have three children - all of whom are born in wedlock, that I'm at home raising with my wife. I'm also GS-11 (Step 4) with the federal government.
    Difference between Trump and RM. Trump said ILLEGAL immigrants. The legal ones are the people that know he is not talking about them. They don't like illegals as much as any normal American because they did the right and legal thing to gain citizenship, illegals don't. RM talks about all blacks, no distinguishing between middle class suburbs blacks and ghetto blacks. There is a youuuge difference.

    Do you think a cop knows any of this when he sees me walking down the street? Hell, whenever I express a liberal viewpoint on facebook, I'm met with accusations of being on welfare, etc, etc.
    One, where would you be walking? Two, FB is full of trolls.

    With that being said, whether any immigrant participates in those illegal activities; they're STILL being accused of doing it and, as we all know, perception is reality, so that's how these immigrants will be treated.
    Again, Trump has done on multiple occasions distinguished the difference between illegal and legal immigrants. The media and left tries to paint him as saying "all Mexicans".

    Are you complaining about something that people on YOUR side of the political spectrum always like to bring up? BTW, I "admitted" that people of ALL races are most likely to be murdered by someone of the same race.
    Complaining about what? We were talking about how its an "ugly truth" that blacks between 15-35 were more likely to be killed by another black than any other form of death in America. Its not "hate filled", and I gave you 2 references now, both from leftist sites.

    No, I have basic social skills. Apparently, you don't.
    No, you have assumption skills and playing the victim skills. Telling a retarded man hes retarded is not something that can be fixed or changed. Saying we need to build a wall because our southern border has rapists and murders coming across it everyday is something that can be changed or discouraged.

    Say what you want; whenever a conservative calls me, BLM, or any other person or group of people that speaks out against racism a "racist," it's nothing but gibberish to me. A conservative call anyone a racist is null and void before it even comes out of their mouths.
    Cause you are prejudice to whites and never think blacks can be racist right? Going off the new definition of racism? Its fine, Trump is getting such a youuuge following because of people like you who always want to silence the truth because it doesn't fit your narrative.

    Straw man. Neither I nor the article said that. You (and Donald Trump) are saying the Mexicans coming the borders the rapists. Sure, 80% of the females crossing may be victims of rape, but who's doing the raping? You and Donald Trump say it's the people crossing the border. That quote shows that it's opportunists taking advantage of people in a bad situation.
    Who are Mexicans crossing the border. Why are you leaving that out? Do you think the guides or bandits or other illegals are staying in Mexico? Everyone in the article are people who cross the border frequently.

    LOL, "I want to build a wall in order to protect Mexican women! I care about women in Mexico, and this wall will ensure their safety!"
    Not what I said, nor Trump. Good job showing how you lie about what people say.

    Yeah, okay. THAT'S why Trump wants to build the wall, and THAT'S why you agree with it... right? I don't know who or what the fuck you think I am.
    From what he says, he wants to build the wall for the poor who are losing jobs to people paid less than min wage under the table who also get welfare cause their child just happened to be born north of the border. These people who cross illegally are illiterate in both Spanish and English. Low skills. And every single one is a criminal who doesn't respect the laws of the nation they are trying to get to.

    Oh, I'm sorry - was that Reaganomics? No? Weren't the taxes far more graduated then they are now, or any point since Reagan took office? Oh, they were? Then I guess there was zero point in mentioning this.
    This is a leftist term used to demonize the economic policy. But, I see how you ignored the fact that Obama has done much more for the rich than Reagan ever did.

    Prove what? I'm not saying that's the only places where black people work. Of course... I'm sure that white conservatives working at these restaurants will GLADLY take a pay cut if they're convinced that the reasoning behind their pay cut has something to do with them being better than blacks and Latinos; so they don't really count. Why announce the reason for a negligible price increase unless you're trying to draw attention to it?
    Back to the mind set of the early 1900's I see. How pathetic are you to think most whites no longer see people by their skin color? You do understand that it took more than half the white population to vote the people in who stopped the democrats from keep blacks from voting right?
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