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    Jeez. We're in the politics section, and the moderator's letting us talk. Stop crying racist all the time, whenever you don't get your way. What a Bunch of whiners and complainers. How in the hell did you guys ever make it in the military, with such thin skin?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainmaker View Post
    Jeez. We're in the politics section, and the moderator's letting us talk. Stop crying racist all the time, whenever you don't get your way. What a Bunch of whiners and complainers. How in the hell did you guys ever make it in the military, with such thin skin?
    Its the default setting for anyone who is a socialist. Its why "PC" was created so you can shut down the conversation when people start using facts, common sense, and stats. Not to mention people living in the real world with experience knows socialism doesn't work. People use "racists" as a form of PC control to push white guilt on to those who shine a bad light on to minority short comings. When was the last time you were called racist for speaking towards Asian positive stereo types?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjölnir View Post
    If that is what you think the issue is, this is no longer the place for you friend.
    And he wonders why i finally had enough and blocked both him and rusty!.

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    Or...how about we stop redistributing other people's money? Since we have seen socialism fail everywhere, maybe we stop trying it. Socialism is for the people, not the socialist. The Clintons drop everything they get "paid" into their "charity" organization, and then turn around and pay for everything through their foundation. This gives them a huge tax break, and they don't have to redistribute their own wealth while claiming they are "dead broke" while owning 5 multi-million dollar homes.
    Well said WJ. We have spend billions of tax victims money in redistribution of wealth programs, such as the massively failed 'war on poverty and drugs'.. And there are more people in poverty now than before we started 'fighting it'.

    Quote Originally Posted by WILDJOKER5 View Post
    High school isn't for everyone, but the government still makes it mandatory.
    Even to the point those who homeschool their kids, are getting cramped down on, making it harder and harder to keep doing so.. PLUS those parent(s) who do homeschool, still pay for every one else's kid going to public schools.. IMO if you home school or DON'T have kids, you shouldn't have to pay for public schools..

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    Quote Originally Posted by garhkal View Post

    Well said WJ. We have spend billions of tax victims money in redistribution of wealth programs, such as the massively failed 'war on poverty and drugs'.. And there are more people in poverty now than before we started 'fighting it'.
    Are you sure you wanted to say this? This is a pretty liberal point of view. As a matter of fact, this is what liberals have been saying for years and years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Jones View Post
    This actually got me thinking about Bernie Sanders' push for free college during his campaign.

    What if, instead, we start off every new adult with a large sum of money and they can what they want to do with it?

    Say, for example, upon reaching the age of 18 AND graduating high school (no GEDs allowed, it HAS to be a high school diploma); everyone is issued a check for $100,000. With that money, they've got choices: they pay for college. They can purchase a house. They can start a business. Or... they can be an idiot, and blow it on cars, video games, and expensive shoes and clothes (they might be broke after they wasted they're money, but imagine enough idiots stimulating the economy pretty good by doing this).

    So... the big question is this: how are we going to pay for this? Easy: we raise the retirement age for social security by five years. That, in itself would cover it for most people. Also, more people will die off before being able to draw social security, so there's more savings right there.

    Here's more areas from where the money would come: for those that start business, they would be self-employed and many could also employ others. That's less money being spent on public assistance. For those that purchase a house; because they're not paying rent... if they're not working, they would qualify for less public assistance.

    Also, the people who purchase the house and are working will have more disposable income to stimulate the economy with.

    Other possible "rules" to this

    -People born after a certain year would be subject to this. Anyone born before that can "opt in" by agreeing to delay drawing their Social Security by five years.
    -To protect this money from greedy parents, an 18 year old can assign any or all of the money to a college, someone selling a home, or someone selling an established business; or any combination of three; before the remaining funds are paid to him or her.

    So here we are: every 18 year old starts out with $100,000 in their hands.

    How the rest of their lives go depends on what they do with it. But they all got the same amount, and are equally responsible for what they do with it.

    Thoughts?
    I don't like it.

    For one...if every 18 year old had $100,000...then community colleges would suddenly cost $100,000.

    I don't think we can make everybody equal...for those with the means will always try to gain an advantage, myself included. If our kids got $100K...then we would send them to the "better" $200K schools, so that they would have an advantage in life.

    Most of us want our kids to have advantages in life...that is why we make choices to live where the better schools are even if it costs more, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sandsjames View Post
    Are you sure you wanted to say this? This is a pretty liberal point of view. As a matter of fact, this is what liberals have been saying for years and years.
    War on drugs maybe, but war on poverty is the way liberals keep their black voting demographic by demonizing the right for wanting to take it away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sandsjames View Post
    Are you sure you wanted to say this? This is a pretty liberal point of view. As a matter of fact, this is what liberals have been saying for years and years.
    War on drugs maybe, but war on poverty is the way liberals keep their black voting demographic by demonizing the right for wanting to take it away.
    Progressivism; such great ideas, they need to force you to follow them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WILDJOKER5 View Post
    War on drugs maybe, but war on poverty is the way liberals keep their black voting demographic by demonizing the right for wanting to take it away.
    More often than not, black people aren't voting FOR Democrats. They're simply voting AGAINST Republicans. And it isn't even limited to race. Look at this election. Do you think everyone voting for Clinton is really voting FOR her? Of course not. Many, if not most, are simply voting AGAINST Trump. Look at SJ, for example.

    The Republicans don't get black votes because they don't court them. That's part of the Southern Strategy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Jones View Post
    More often than not, black people aren't voting FOR Democrats. They're simply voting AGAINST Republicans. And it isn't even limited to race. Look at this election. Do you think everyone voting for Clinton is really voting FOR her? Of course not. Many, if not most, are simply voting AGAINST Trump. Look at SJ, for example.

    The Republicans don't get black votes because they don't court them. That's part of the Southern Strategy.
    That's what I just said. The dems demonize the right by saying they want to take away black people's welfare. So that means blacks vote against the right to keep their handouts.

    BTW, no political party should be "courting" a specific race. That's what we call biased. When you make laws for everyone, that everyone can follow, and everyone has the same chance of doing, that's called equality. You love the left cause they segregate you and your race while actually doing nothing for you. Blacks have had it worse under Obama and every single democrat mayor. But hey, at least they promise you stuff, you just don't actually get anything. So, for 50 years, blacks have fallen backwards while voting for democrats who promise them free stuff, but when blacks backed the GOP who didn't promise free stuff, they actually increased in social economic standards. But yeah, any black conservative is a "sell out" right?
    Progressivism; such great ideas, they need to force you to follow them.

    Socialism is for the people, not the socialist.

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