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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Jones View Post
    I don't think it's unrealistic to say there's a stronger anti-immigrant sentiment in the US than in the UK.
    I'm gonna disagree, and that's from living in an English community for 8 years. I know what the government preaches, but the people aren't happy about any of the immigration. British are far more racist than you might think.

    Have you seen the Jaguar commercial that says "Being British, we don't boast"? That's a bunch of crap, too. Very boastful, just not on an international level. Don't buy in to what the media tells you. If England could build a wall, they would.

    As far as 1997 for the British Empire, I think you know that's a pretty good exaggeration. The British Empire has had zero power for 100 years anywhere other than England.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandsjames View Post
    The British Empire has had zero power for 100 years anywhere other than England.
    The Brits ran the world when they had the pound-sterling as the reserve currency backed by gold. On the brink of collapse in WWI (and unable to feed their army and to avoid surrender) England had to take out loans from the Jewish world Congress. In exchange for the money, the Brits had to agree to:

    1. Ditch the gold standard

    2. Issue the Balfour declaration to Warren Rothschild (declaring Palestine as the historical home of the Jewish People) and

    3. allow them to use their lobbying influence to bring the traditionally Isolationist Americans into the war against Germany.

    Britain sort of stumbled along as the de facto leaders of the "free" world for the next 30+ years until the near the end of WW2. When the $ became the world's reserve currency at Bretton woods, and the Banking cartel packed up shop and transferred their operations from London to NYC.


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    The best thing our leaders can take from Brexit is this: If you don't like the way the people vote, resign. It's not about the politicians, it's about the citizens. I guess the same can be said if you don't agree with SCOTUS decisions as well.
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    We should "exit" NATO and the UN.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USN - Retired View Post
    We should "exit" NATO and the UN.
    I'm with you. They serve no purpose for us. All they do is veto everything us and England want to do anyway. Let's just have our strong alliance with England and we'll be fine.

    What I'm finding ironic is that England had all that hype about wanting to ban Trump, yet this vote basically say that they are on board with most of the stuff Trump is saying.

    And just so you know, from speaking with my English friends who were "leavers". They are now being labeled bigots and racists for voting to leave the EU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandsjames View Post
    I'm with you. They serve no purpose for us. All they do is veto everything us and England want to do anyway. Let's just have our strong alliance with England and we'll be fine.
    From an economic perspective, this is actually going to hurt our relationship with the UK. When American companies export products to the EU, the UK is typically the entry point and everything moves from there to the rest of the EU. Even goods manufactured in the EU for American companies have bases of operations in the UK. Well, with the UK no longer being part of the EU; we can't do that anymore. We're going to have to find another country. I'm not sure if the UK is the entry point for Japanese and South Korean goods, but if it is... then they are going to have the exact same problems with the UK... would could have further economic implications for Brexit.
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    Have you seen the recent articles of Brits googling "EU?" Yep, these fuckers don't even know what the EU, and they voted to leave it. And Brits say we're stupid or don't know anything about the rest of the world? Oh, man...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Jones View Post
    Have you seen the recent articles of Brits googling "EU?" Yep, these fuckers don't even know what the EU, and they voted to leave it. And Brits say we're stupid or don't know anything about the rest of the world? Oh, man...
    That's why I don't let it bother me when other countries call us out on shit. Brits are much more isolationist than we are. Think about it this way...they all live within an hour or two of at least 5 countries that speak 5 different languages, yet most of them only speak English...we get criticized for not speaking several languages and our country is bigger than the entire continent of Europe (minus Russia).

    We're an easy target. Hell, talk to actual Canadians about how much they pay for their prescriptions...I promise you their medical system isn't "free" like they'd like everyone to think.

    So worrying about our "image" in the world community is a waste of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Jones View Post
    this is actually going to hurt our relationship with the UK.

    It's true that The EU has a bunch of socialistic hoops you have to jump thru in order to bring a product to market (so that the crony elite can skim money off the top). The stock market's going to correct (probably 20-30%) and cause a recession. But, the big money's already hedged against the risk.

    There will be all kinds of threats & cries that The Sky is falling! The Sky is falling!.... We'll see a campaign for another referendum Titled ]"See Britain you're so stupid for voting to Leave your EU Masters".

    Temporarily This situation will persist until President Trump negotiates a Bilateral Trade deal with the UK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Jones View Post
    these fuckers don't even know what the EU, and they voted to leave it. And Brits say we're stupid or don't know anything about the rest of the world? Oh, man...


    While no one can understand the 22,398 EU laws currently in effect....What they can know is that jobs are being offshored and they're picking up the tab for their country being flooded with 3rd worlders that will never assimilate and hate them for being "Privileged"(Much like American's with NAFTA).

    Britain's biggest trade deficit is With the EU! As the world's 5th largest economy they have all the leverage and Only the EU bureaucrats need the EU to sustain their parasitic existence. Which is why all the Socialist Establishment Politicians (like Hillary and Obama) support it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Jones View Post
    One thing is for certain... Brexit definitely has some implications for how the election in the US might turn out. The US is for more conservative than the UK, so the question of Trump being elected is no longer a question of possibility, but one of probability.
    Rejection of the Globalist order is a worldwide phenomenon.

    The Don is playing the media like a fiddle. While the Hildabeast and her fanboi lackey's on CNN whine about him going to Scotland to check on his bidness in the middle of the campaign, He issues the following statement with a Castle in the Background.

    "They Took Their Country Back, We Will Take America Back"- Donald J. Trump

    It's Brilliant marketing.

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