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    Here's what I don't like about the Air Force PT test, and why I think it's too hard for the Air Force:

    1. Body fat. You LOSE points for having a waist larger than 35 inches. No other service does this; not even the Marine Corps. In every other service, as long as you meet the minimum body fat requirement, you're good to go.

    2. The scoring system: in the Army and Navy, all you have to do is pass each category, and you're good. In the Air Force and Marine Corps, you have to do a little extra in each category in order to reach the overall minimum score. Why the fuck is the Air Force, of all services, doing the same shit as the Marine Corps with regard to this? The only difference between the Air Force and Marine Corps that I'm able to see is that, in the age group, the Air Force changes the point values per repetition (or time block in the run) just like the Army and Navy, whereas the Marine Corps simply lowers the minimum required overall score you need as you go up in age.

    3. The age brackets. I don't know about the Army and Marine Corps, but the Navy has five year age brackets and the Air Force has ten. A 39 year old has the SAME minimums as a 30 year old. That SUCKS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Jones View Post
    1. Body fat. You LOSE points for having a waist larger than 35 inches. No other service does this; not even the Marine Corps. In every other service, as long as you meet the minimum body fat requirement, you're good to go.
    Squarely in the "things I don't get about the USAF PT Program" category.

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    2. The scoring system: in the Army and Navy, all you have to do is pass each category, and you're good. In the Air Force and Marine Corps, you have to do a little extra in each category in order to reach the overall minimum score. Why the fuck is the Air Force, of all services, doing the same shit as the Marine Corps with regard to this? The only difference between the Air Force and Marine Corps that I'm able to see is that, in the age group, the Air Force changes the point values per repetition (or time block in the run) just like the Army and Navy, whereas the Marine Corps simply lowers the minimum required overall score you need as you go up in age.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Jones View Post
    3. The age brackets. I don't know about the Army and Marine Corps, but the Navy has five year age brackets and the Air Force has ten. A 39 year old has the SAME minimums as a 30 year old. That SUCKS.
    Meh ... it is where they draw the line. I am 43, bad back, bad knee. Ran the PRT a few weeks ago with a partial tear in my ACL, had knee surgery the week after the PRT. The tests themselves are overall laughable in their difficulty whether you are 18 or 50 for someone who is in the military barring having an actual, no kidding medical condition ... in which case you either get a medical waiver or possibly don't need to be in the Armed Forces any longer. Shitty thing to say for sure ... but it is what it is. For every person we can't deploy either to combat, on a ship or at least to a forward area / base ... that is someone else who has to go for them. If you can't go when your turn comes up ... time to find a new vocation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Jones View Post
    3. The age brackets. I don't know about the Army and Marine Corps, but the Navy has five year age brackets and the Air Force has ten. A 39 year old has the SAME minimums as a 30 year old. That SUCKS.
    Agreed. But imo the suckier part is a gal of 18 has a lower # of pushups, sit ups and time needed for the run than a 44 yr old guy??

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    Quote Originally Posted by garhkal View Post
    Agreed. But imo the suckier part is a gal of 18 has a lower # of pushups, sit ups and time needed for the run than a 44 yr old guy??

    I understand that part. Put this this way: an 18 year old woman and 44 year old man are about to fight. Neither one of them are trained in a martial art, neither of them workout at the gym, and neither of them are fat either. Both are 100% able bodied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Jones View Post
    3. The age brackets. I don't know about the Army and Marine Corps, but the Navy has five year age brackets and the Air Force has ten. A 39 year old has the SAME minimums as a 30 year old. That SUCKS.
    This is the biggest thing. We were in 5 year brackets until about 6 or 7 years ago.

    As you mention, there's a huge difference between 30 and 39. Also, there is only a 24 second difference if you are 18 or if you're 39. That's 21 years...24 seconds for the minimum. Now, the minimum isn't difficult with any effort, but the fact that they expect someone who's almost 40 to perform at the same level as an 18 year old is ridiculous.

    Hell, look at professional sports. Most athletes are done by their early to mid 30s and very few are successful as they near 40. It gets to the point where 6 foot 6 inch basketball players don't even attempt to dunk the ball because their bodies are so worn out. It was working at 5 years...don't know why they needed to change it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandsjames View Post
    It was working at 5 years...don't know why they needed to change it.
    Whiners more than likely.. Or those who routinely had issues, got into general spots and changed it cause they could.

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