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    Voter ignorance

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/12/opinio...min/index.html

    Though this post is obviously a push for Hillary (as it blatantly leaves out anything she has said that's wrong while bringing up stuff by both Trump and Sanders, while at the same time the author in the photo is indistinguishable as a man or woman, so we'll call it "Pat") it does make a good point as to what this country is dealing with when it comes to ignorance of the political system.

    How do we go about educating people? The internet won't work because of the "media bias" issue we've discussed. People will go to sites they already agree with for facts that are produced by supporters of their ideas. Main stream media doesn't work as it is nothing more than propaganda. College doesn't work as the majority of universities are so politically oriented that you'd think they are part of a super pac.

    So what's the fix? Is there any hope to get the American voter educated on the things they are voting for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandsjames View Post
    http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/12/opinio...min/index.html

    Though this post is obviously a push for Hillary (as it blatantly leaves out anything she has said that's wrong while bringing up stuff by both Trump and Sanders, while at the same time the author in the photo is indistinguishable as a man or woman, so we'll call it "Pat") it does make a good point as to what this country is dealing with when it comes to ignorance of the political system.

    How do we go about educating people? The internet won't work because of the "media bias" issue we've discussed. People will go to sites they already agree with for facts that are produced by supporters of their ideas. Main stream media doesn't work as it is nothing more than propaganda. College doesn't work as the majority of universities are so politically oriented that you'd think they are part of a super pac.

    So what's the fix? Is there any hope to get the American voter educated on the things they are voting for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WILDJOKER5 View Post
    Just vote for me to be king and we will be done with voting forever.
    You could always go to Somalia and crown yourself king. EVERYBODY is king in Somalia. And Somalia has the government you've always dreamed of: none.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sandsjames View Post
    http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/12/opinio...min/index.html

    Though this post is obviously a push for Hillary (as it blatantly leaves out anything she has said that's wrong while bringing up stuff by both Trump and Sanders, while at the same time the author in the photo is indistinguishable as a man or woman, so we'll call it "Pat") it does make a good point as to what this country is dealing with when it comes to ignorance of the political system.

    How do we go about educating people? The internet won't work because of the "media bias" issue we've discussed. People will go to sites they already agree with for facts that are produced by supporters of their ideas. Main stream media doesn't work as it is nothing more than propaganda. College doesn't work as the majority of universities are so politically oriented that you'd think they are part of a super pac.

    So what's the fix? Is there any hope to get the American voter educated on the things they are voting for?
    People have to get off their asses and go out and research. They need to go listen to a candidate speak. They need to look at their records. They need to stop being lazy. That's the bottomline - most Americans are just fucking lazy anymore. They want everything spoon fed to them when it comes to...well...anything. They see a meme and go "oh shit that must be true I'm sharing it!"

    I don't think anyone will ever be truly educated on a candidate. Has anyone ever? All candidates will lie and say what they think people want to hear anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparks82 View Post
    People have to get off their asses and go out and research. They need to go listen to a candidate speak. They need to look at their records. They need to stop being lazy. That's the bottomline - most Americans are just fucking lazy anymore. They want everything spoon fed to them when it comes to...well...anything. They see a meme and go "oh shit that must be true I'm sharing it!"

    I don't think anyone will ever be truly educated on a candidate. Has anyone ever? All candidates will lie and say what they think people want to hear anyway.
    Exactly...so how does that get fixed? I know what needs to happen (people do research) but we know that's not going to happen. Voting for our leaders is the single most important thing people can do. There must be something that could make people care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandsjames View Post
    Exactly...so how does that get fixed? I know what needs to happen (people do research) but we know that's not going to happen. Voting for our leaders is the single most important thing people can do. There must be something that could make people care.
    I really don't think there is anything to make people care. There hasn't been so far...and look what we get for candidates. That's because you have to be a little insane to run for President.

    I honestly don't see anything that will motivate people to vote except those who haven't done it before or have just recently become citizens or came from somewhere they didn't have any right to vote. Most Americans seem to want to just bitch but not vote the people out who are making decisions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandsjames View Post
    How do we go about educating people? The internet won't work because of the "media bias" issue we've discussed. People will go to sites they already agree with for facts that are produced by supporters of their ideas. Main stream media doesn't work as it is nothing more than propaganda. College doesn't work as the majority of universities are so politically oriented that you'd think they are part of a super pac.

    So what's the fix? Is there any hope to get the American voter educated on the things they are voting for?
    Several imo.
    1) Get media back into just REPORTING on stories, not manufacturing them, or telling one side to push agendas.
    2) get schools out of being so damn leftwing, more centrist. Have BOTH sides of the spectrum offered up..
    3) have more people home school..

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparks82 View Post
    People have to get off their asses and go out and research. They need to go listen to a candidate speak. They need to look at their records. They need to stop being lazy. That's the bottomline - most Americans are just fucking lazy anymore. They want everything spoon fed to them when it comes to...well...anything. They see a meme and go "oh shit that must be true I'm sharing it!"

    I don't think anyone will ever be truly educated on a candidate. Has anyone ever? All candidates will lie and say what they think people want to hear anyway.
    Exactly...so how does that get fixed? I know what needs to happen (people do research) but we know that's not going to happen. Voting for our leaders is the single most important thing people can do. There must be something that could make people care.

    Dunno. Maybe if we stopped rewarding laziness as well as dumbing everything down to the lowest level, people would start suffering FOR being lazy/stupid, while those who don't would actually get OFF their butts to get smart?

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    Quote Originally Posted by garhkal View Post
    Several imo.
    1) Get media back into just REPORTING on stories, not manufacturing them, or telling one side to push agendas.
    I find local news does pretty good with that.
    2) get schools out of being so damn leftwing, more centrist. Have BOTH sides of the spectrum offered up..
    I don't even think they should be centrist. Schools should offer facts...the students should be the critical thinkers.
    3) have more people home school..
    Not sure how this would help. It's pretty much the deepest form of indoctrination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garhkal View Post
    1) Get media back into just REPORTING on stories, not manufacturing them, or telling one side to push agendas.
    How is that even possible? If you do the research, you will see that 6 gigantic corporations own just about every media outlet in the USA. Those corporations have some serious skin in the game. You bet your butt they will report and spin news to serve their interests. There is no more news... it is all commentary now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by efmbman View Post
    How is that even possible? If you do the research, you will see that 6 gigantic corporations own just about every media outlet in the USA. Those corporations have some serious skin in the game. You bet your butt they will report and spin news to serve their interests. There is no more news... it is all commentary now.
    Totally off topic but I don't see you here often. We are on season 6 of our annual rewatch. Just finished "The Lighthouse" episode...the show just never gets old.

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