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    Quote Originally Posted by WILDJOKER5 View Post
    They don't lust for Ryan Reynolds or Channing Tatum over Gary Busey or Clint Howard?
    This is why women like Ryan Reynolds and Channing Tatum - yes there is the looks factor but it's also overall their personality. They appear to be good fathers and husbands. They appear to treat their wives very well and take care of their children and THAT more than the looks is what attracts the majority of women to them.

    I'm pretty sure Busey is married but in his later years he's gone pretty crazy and that turns women off. I guarantee you most people don't know who Clint Howard even is until you show them a picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparks82 View Post
    I don't care if a guy has money. If some guy walked in and flashed a card and offered to pay for everything I definitely would not fuck him. If he wants to pay for something, ok. I mean he just said he's going to pay for everything not "I'll pay for everything if you have sex with me." Some women are that shallow. As are some men.
    And not all men will go to the woman who is hot. Don't get me wrong, I do believe looks are a starting point, but if given a chance, some women can scoot through the looks barrier with some personality. Visa versa for guys too.

    I like Ryan Reynolds and Zach Galifanikus. There are a few movies where I thought Galifanikus was kind of attractive. I like funny guys though. My first celebrity crush was Adam Sandler. Most of my celeb crushes have been comedians.
    Well, you prove another aspect of the male trifecta. Since you were watching the movie, it wasn't just because of the guys looks, but you became attracted because of the comic relief that gives women a "calming" sense and puts them at ease.

    It just depends on the person honestly. But yes women do objectify men but not based on their wallet. We can objectify based on looks and do as there are men who pose shirtless in some magazines. Or in a nice suit. We still base it on how they look.
    Right. You have Tom Cruise who may be hot to you, but then he goes bat shit crazy talking about Scientology, his personality destroys the looks. You have Donald Trump, maybe not you, but would you agree his wife is attracted to his wallet? Zach, were you attracted to his looks or after watching his movie where he was funny did you become attracted to him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WILDJOKER5 View Post
    Meh, women like Assholes.

    Ok, so real life examples. Hugh Heffner. Donald Trump. Tom Brady. Ugly mofos with money.
    Tom Brady isn't ugly - but he is an asshole or seems to come off as one. Hugh Hefner wasn't horrible looking when he was young. He must have something to offer besides money...just saying. Trump yeah he's ugly but maybe some women find him attractive.

    Women don't like assholes. What happens is the asshole guys pretend to be nice and once they get what they want, the asshole comes out and then now we feel that all men are assholes and can't trust anyone again because the assholes fuck it up for the nice guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WILDJOKER5 View Post
    I dated one woman who was smoking hot. 5 foot nothing, 100 lbs, blond and D cups. But when she drank, she got physical. Me, a 6'1" 230 lbs man, if felt like gnats trying to hit me. But even gnats get frustrating after a bit. I went back a couple of times only cause she was hot, but nothing changed. But she did keep talking about being with her ex who made 6 figures even though she hated most everything else about him. I know its anecdotal, but just one example. And she was a school teacher so she wasn't with me the military guy for my money.


    But she keeps coming back. And I bet she still gives him some nookie at times.
    But she was with you not the ex so there was something about you she wanted even though she had this guy who made "six figures." What does her being a school teacher prove? They make less than just about anyone. So she was probably with you because you made more money than she did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WILDJOKER5 View Post
    And not all men will go to the woman who is hot. Don't get me wrong, I do believe looks are a starting point, but if given a chance, some women can scoot through the looks barrier with some personality. Visa versa for guys too.

    Well, you prove another aspect of the male trifecta. Since you were watching the movie, it wasn't just because of the guys looks, but you became attracted because of the comic relief that gives women a "calming" sense and puts them at ease.


    Right. You have Tom Cruise who may be hot to you, but then he goes bat shit crazy talking about Scientology, his personality destroys the looks. You have Donald Trump, maybe not you, but would you agree his wife is attracted to his wallet? Zach, were you attracted to his looks or after watching his movie where he was funny did you become attracted to him?
    Probably personality with Galifinakis - and even sometimes Will Ferrell isn't half bad looking.

    I was never really into Tom Cruise - maybe because he's so short? Sorry I can't date short guys. I'm tall for a female and I tried to date a short guy and it was just weird and awkward - and it didn't help he turned into a stalker either but the short thing just bothered me.

    I'm sure his wife did marry him for money but maybe she loves him now? I don't know. That's just weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparks82 View Post
    But she was with you not the ex so there was something about you she wanted even though she had this guy who made "six figures." What does her being a school teacher prove? They make less than just about anyone. So she was probably with you because you made more money than she did.
    She was with me, but still talking about the ex. Seemed very unsettling.

    The Teacher thing was to show its not just trailer park or ghetto girls who can miss the point. We were about equal cause of how much education she had. And yes, after I broke up with her, she went back to the ex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WILDJOKER5 View Post
    She was with me, but still talking about the ex. Seemed very unsettling.

    The Teacher thing was to show its not just trailer park or ghetto girls who can miss the point. We were about equal cause of how much education she had. And yes, after I broke up with her, she went back to the ex.
    Ok - some women are shallow as fuck. So are some men. There are a lot of people who talk about their exes with their new partner. You probably should have just left then and stayed away but you kept going back because she's hot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparks82 View Post
    Just to clarify she is a she not an it or a he but you have your opinion. It's not up to you to decide these things.
    He still has a penis. It's not opinion anymore than dinosaurs once existing is opinion. Kindergarten Cop pointed it out very clearly. "Boys have a penis, girls have a vagina". It's not really up for debate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparks82 View Post
    Ok - some women are shallow as fuck. So are some men. There are a lot of people who talk about their exes with their new partner. You probably should have just left then and stayed away but you kept going back because she's hot.
    And the sex was great, but I let it go once she got her DUI. She had all sorts of mess going on in her head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sparks82 View Post
    Really? Women don't like looking at men's bodies? Um...yeah you should've seen how full Magic Mike was when it was in theaters. I felt like I was in an actual strip club the way women acted. I was waiting for dollar bills to get tossed at the screen. Women may* not like looking at dicks - but we like to look at men's bodies. There are male strip clubs that women frequent and there are the traveling acts like "Thunder from Down Under" that's like Magic Mike and there's another group like that too. Or like Chippendale's.
    Yeah, but there isn't as big a market for it.* How many Playgirl magazines do you have stacked away your closet?* None, right?* Playgirl actually exists as a result of Second Wave Feminism. women fought for it.* They bought them at first, now they don't.* Playgirl still sells.* How, you ask?* Because gay men buy it.
    Sex sells.* Men, whether gay or straight, are the ones buying it.
    Women objectify men. There are how many of the shirtless pictures of men like Ryan Reynolds or Dwayne Johnson and so on. Just because we don't like to look at dick picks - I mean do men like vagina shots? Is that attractive to you to see some vagina? Probably not. Women like to fantasize about guys like Ryan Reynolds or Chris Pratt or whoever is ripped and famous. That doesn't mean that's the guy we go for.
    Yes, actually.* I can speak for ALL heterosexual men when I say we LOVE looking at vagina; most of us even more so than breasts.
    I find it odd that you think you know how women think and what we are attracted to and it's funny because you are waay off base. Women are attracted to different men (straight women) but that doesn't mean we never objectify. Or check out a hot guy with ripped abs running shirtless down the street or notice a nice ass in a pair of jeans.
    You speak from the point of view of a woman, and that's good.* Me?* I speak from the point of view of a man that actually has to do the job of attractive women, which requires an understanding of how women think.
    Truth be told, as a woman who has to do the job of attractive men, I'd actually consider your thoughts on how men think to be very valuable.
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