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    Quote Originally Posted by sandsjames View Post
    You can rationalize it all you want...

    For instance...if this had been a group of black and white women with their fists raised in the air I wouldn't think anything of it because there is no history to anything questionable with white chicks doing this.

    However, white men and black men/women have all made that (or a very similar) gesture for political reasons so to have it perceived as something larger is pretty easy to understand.
    What about this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandsjames View Post
    You can rationalize it all you want...

    For instance...if this had been a group of black and white women with their fists raised in the air I wouldn't think anything of it because there is no history to anything questionable with white chicks doing this.

    However, white men and black men/women have all made that (or a very similar) gesture for political reasons so to have it perceived as something larger is pretty easy to understand.
    Women in Nazi Germany did the salute and pledged allegiance to Hitler just as much men did. There are female white supremacists and neo-Nazis today too. Women can be racist bigots just as much as men.

    Also "A raised-fist icon appears prominently as a feminist symbol on the covers of two major books by Robin Morgan, Sisterhood is Powerful, published in 1970, and Sisterhood Is Forever, in 2003."

    It was used as a symbol for Librarians Against the Digital Rights Movement apparently. Over 70 groups worldwide have used it - ranging from labor groups to feminists to terrorist groups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparks82 View Post
    Women in Nazi Germany did the salute and pledged allegiance to Hitler just as much men did. There are female white supremacists and neo-Nazis today too. Women can be racist bigots just as much as men.
    Like the founder of planned abortionhood.
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    This must be a trend at West Point. I must say that it looks pretty harmless when white cadets do it.
    https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/...2WUKgrzgJQ.png

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandsjames View Post
    These cadets have two things going for them. One, they are black. Two, they are female. There's no way anything other than a slap on the hand will happen.
    'Black Lives Matter' is the on the list of approved racists of the government, like 'La Raza'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainmaker View Post
    'Black Lives Matter' is the on the list of approved racists of the government, like 'La Raza'.
    Don't forget about code pink.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjölnir View Post
    Possibly, but the optic is definitely poor. I once saw a photo taken at an inopportune time when a boy was raising his had to catch something. It looked like the boy was making a Nazi salute (not a rigid extended hand, but close). Public reaction to the photo was pretty bad.

    Now, maybe their after the fact story on why they posed the way they did in the photo is accurate, maybe it is made up after the fact. Either way, the photograph (absent of a banner or description) looks like they are making a political statement. Even if they weren't (which I don't fully think is true), the ability to have it taken this way shows a lack of judgement ... one I expect from someone in this age group.
    Too true these days. The optics on something often is MORE damning than the truth of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by waveshaper2 View Post
    This must be a trend at West Point. I must say that it looks pretty harmless when white cadets do it.
    https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/...2WUKgrzgJQ.png
    I know in ranks i have done similar, usually when cheering for Navy to beat army/airforce..

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    Quote Originally Posted by WILDJOKER5 View Post
    Don't forget about code pink.
    How could they be racist? They're all pink inside!
    Last edited by Rainmaker; 05-09-2016 at 09:48 PM.

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    Just like any good lefty, if the minority doesn't side with them, then the minority is a house *****
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainmaker View Post
    'Black Lives Matter' is the on the list of approved racists of the government, like 'La Raza'.
    "Approved racists of the government?" I have never heard of a list of "approved racists of the government." Is this sanctioned by the government? Or is this by something like a conservative group? That doesn't even make sense. Approved racists of the government? Really?

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