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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainmaker View Post
    Yeah vote Libertarian and turn the country into fucking Guadalajara.... Thanks. But, No thanks Gary.
    Are you one of the typical conservatives who is basing your adversity towards weed based on experience or what you've read like Bill Oreily? Cash crops like Corn, wheat, soy, potatoes and weed is the same as coal, gold, oil and natural gas etc. These things all make money from "nothing". Natural resources are the best way of generating revenue for countries, states, counties, and towns. The only country I know that has a decent economy without natural resources is Japan. People don't smoke pot just cause its illegal, they don't want to. Just like they don't smoke tobacco, or drink alcohol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WILDJOKER5 View Post
    Are you one of the typical conservatives who is basing your adversity towards weed based on experience or what you've read like Bill Oreily? Cash crops like Corn, wheat, soy, potatoes and weed is the same as coal, gold, oil and natural gas etc. These things all make money from "nothing". Natural resources are the best way of generating revenue for countries, states, counties, and towns. The only country I know that has a decent economy without natural resources is Japan. People don't smoke pot just cause its illegal, they don't want to. Just like they don't smoke tobacco, or drink alcohol.

    I base my personal opinion towards drugs on my first-hand experience with seeing Friends and Family members that have had their lives destroyed by drug addiction.

    Ron Paul's pandering to idiot pot smoking youth is the only reason that any of the stoner hippie occupy crowd even knew what the Fuck Libertarianism even is.

    But, It's a side issue and basically I'm primarily opposed to Libertarianism because, you can't have a functioning country without National borders and Common culture. Hence the name Nation.

    Now, If I wanted to go Live in some shithole 3rd world Banana Republic with no middle class and no public services where, whites make up only 10% of the ruling population and everyone else has to either live in a barrio slum or pay protection money, to drug lords to keep their families from being kidnapped for ransom then, I could afford to do that.

    But, I don't, so whenever, I want to experience the riches of The Latino culture. I'll just pay for an All-Inclusive instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainmaker View Post
    Well he spelled it out didn't he? Which is why the media stopped covering it. They don't want to bring up the $24B a year in cash under the table payments being sucked out of the country and sent to Mexico by Illegal Aliens while the LEGAL citizens of this country fight over the EBT cards in the Checkout lines at Wal-Mart..

    I think if he accomplishes just 1/5th of what he proposes, it will be infinitely better than the status quo, we've had for the last 25 years.

    & What exactly do you recommend? Oh wise one. Should I Not vote? or should I Go vote for Hillary or write in Jeb Bush? and get more Open borders, More Free (Slave) Trade, More Debt, More Plantation Progressive/Compassionate Conservative Bullshit, More Anti-white Policy and Rhetoric, More Cronyism, More Wall Street fleecing of The American Taxpayers, More bank bailouts, More Hawkish Foreign Policy abroad while bringing in More Moslems that can never assimilate at home? In other words....Meet the new Boss.....Same as the Old Boss?
    You have several options of who to vote for. Trump is fine if you buy into his rhetoric. He definitely strikes a chord with working class white voters. I'm just not buying that he'll be able to actually accomplish any of it once he gets in the position and finds out that he doesn't have the amount of power he thinks comes with the Presidency.

    Hilary is, IMO, far worse than Trump, but she's a known.

    So the choices come down to this. Do I hedge my bets and go with a known that won't destroy us but won't help us, either, or do I gamble big and go with the one who can either make us much better or make us much worse? I haven't decided, yet. What I do know is that neither one of them gives a shit about any of us and if you believe they do then you are far more naïve than you let on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandsjames View Post
    What I do know is that neither one of them gives a shit about any of us and if you believe they do then you are far more naïve than you let on.
    Are you saying I'm not going to get an invite to The Mar-a-Lago?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainmaker View Post
    Are you saying I'm not going to get an invite to The Mar-a-Lago?
    Not in those shoes, you're not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandsjames View Post
    Not in those shoes, you're not.
    Well in that case......CANKLES 2016!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainmaker View Post
    But, It's a side issue and basically I'm primarily opposed to Libertarianism because, you can't have a functioning country without National borders and Common culture. Hence the name Nation.
    And Pauls call to bring our troops home to defend our nation was for what reason? You think he wanted to open the borders and have a military presence on the local streets?

    Now, If I wanted to go Live in some shithole 3rd world Banana Republic with no middle class and no public services where, whites make up only 10% of the ruling population and everyone else has to either live in a barrio slum or pay protection money, to drug lords to keep their families from being kidnapped for ransom then, I could afford to do that.
    There are no "drug lords" in a country where they are legal. The "banana republics" you are deathly afraid of still have anti-drug laws. But those who become millionaires by growing and selling weed are no different than those who created the Iphone when all business is legal and brought into the light of day. Its a fallacy to believe that lifting prohibition will have everyone doing drugs and the world turn to shit. That happens already with the prohibition, just like it did with the alcohol ban. Heroine, as bad as it is, Morphine is worse and addiction to morphine is treated with Heroine because its less addictive. All the destructive drugs like meth, pcp, etc have come from this prohibition and people figuring out new ways to get high since the easy stuff like weed was unavailable. Even Crack vs cocaine is the byproduct of someone trying to stretch cocaine further since it was limited in supply. The cuts and reformation of cocaine powder that makes it harmful due to prohibition, just like alcohol. Will people be addicted and ruin their lives due to these drugs? Of course, just as people are addicted to shopping, gambling, alcohol, tobacco, driving fast, adrenaline and everything else you can think of. People still play football even with all of the mental disorders and concussions and other injuries that come from putting your body through such intense physical trauma, but they do it because they are addicted to it and for the money.
    Progressivism; such great ideas, they need to force you to follow them.

    Socialism is for the people, not the socialist.

    Economic Left/Right: 7.38
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.08
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    Quote Originally Posted by WILDJOKER5 View Post
    There are no "drug lords" in a country where they are legal.
    Yeah ok, Let's just Legalize PCP and El-Chapo will just give up the Drug Lord business and start selling Oranges on the Freeway in LA. I've spent plenty of time supporting "The war on Drugs" in Central & South American countries & They're the most Racist people I've ever encountered.

    But, It's really a beautiful region to live in..... so, long as you're Rich and white. On, second thought maybe I'll head back down there, after Gary Johnson gets elected and Unicorns start shitting Skittles.

    Quote Originally Posted by WILDJOKER5 View Post
    Again, what track record does trump have for doing all this?
    Again, You really can't evaluate a Political Track record for someone that's never held public office and been in private citizen all his life. you have to look at the platform.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainmaker View Post
    Yeah ok, Let's just Legalize PCP and El-Chapo will just give up the Drug Lord business and start selling Oranges on the Freeway in LA. I've spent plenty of time supporting "The war on Drugs" in Central & South American countries . They're the most Racist people I've ever encountered. But, It's really a beautiful region to live in. so, long as you're Rich and white. On, second thought maybe I'll head back down there, when Gary Johnson gets elected and Unicorns start shitting Skittles.
    The thinking, as I'm sure you're aware, is that if everything were legal then there would be no market for all the other stuff. It's been proven with alcohol that that's true. How many people do you see pushing moonshine on street corners? It just doesn't happen.

    Start making real drugs...pure drugs...available legally and see what happens. We've never known anything else in this country...it's not going to get any worse than it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainmaker View Post
    Yeah ok, Let's just Legalize PCP and El-Chapo will just give up the Drug Lord business and start selling Oranges on the Freeway in LA.
    What happened to all the rum runners and whiskey pushers after the alcohol ban? Are they still as powerful as they once were when they had to fight illegally to push their products?
    I've spent plenty of time supporting "The war on Drugs" in Central & South American countries . They're the most Racist people I've ever encountered. But, It's really a beautiful region to live in. so, long as you're Rich and white. On, second thought maybe I'll head back down there, when Gary Johnson gets elected and Unicorns start shitting Skittles.
    I don't doubt down there will still be chaos, cause its still illegal down there no matter what our law change. They will still be fighting the government while our growers will be fighting for market shares by producing better products. Products that get you killed or too high for work will probably be dropped to functional potency.

    When you were under 21, when you got to drink, did you binge? Did you binge as much when you turned 21? People do as much stuff they aren't allowed to do in a short amount of time so they can get as much as they can because they don't know when their next opportunity will be to engage in that activity again.

    You really can't evaluate a Political Track record for someone that's never held public office and been in private citizen all his life.
    Nope, just who they support and statements they made in the past.
    Progressivism; such great ideas, they need to force you to follow them.

    Socialism is for the people, not the socialist.

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    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.08
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