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    PC crap at colleges gretting out of control or not??

    I am just wondering, when is it that we went from where colleges/universities were places where people STUDIED and learned, so they could go out into the real world and get work, to where 'social justice was the and all/be all' and students get to demand anything/everything they want from the owners of said college, and if you didn't bow down to those demands you were wrong??

    Is this whole PC push on campuses geting to be too much??
    Students at the Western Washington University want the dean to build a NEW college campus dedicated to social justice, and that the students have the power to fire anyone they feel is being "micro-aggressing'??

    Sorry, but when the heck do students get the right to demand anything? And what the hell ever happened to freedom of speech??

    http://conservativeangle.com/western...ndoctrination/

    http://www.michiganstandard.com/3704...ndoctrination/

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/07/wa...oaggress-them/

    http://college.usatoday.com/2016/03/...nd-liberation/

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    Quote Originally Posted by garhkal View Post
    I am just wondering, when is it that we went from where colleges/universities were places where people STUDIED and learned, so they could go out into the real world and get work, to where 'social justice was the and all/be all' and students get to demand anything/everything they want from the owners of said college, and if you didn't bow down to those demands you were wrong??

    Is this whole PC push on campuses geting to be too much??
    Students at the Western Washington University want the dean to build a NEW college campus dedicated to social justice, and that the students have the power to fire anyone they feel is being "micro-aggressing'??

    Sorry, but when the heck do students get the right to demand anything? And what the hell ever happened to freedom of speech??

    http://conservativeangle.com/western...ndoctrination/

    http://www.michiganstandard.com/3704...ndoctrination/

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/07/wa...oaggress-them/

    http://college.usatoday.com/2016/03/...nd-liberation/
    1. Depends on the college. There are some that I would not attend because of the issues you describe. Some focus on the education.

    2. Depends on the major. Along the same lines as someone who goes to college in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan then complains about the winter ... did they think it would be balmy up there?
    If you have someone who is studying social issues, I expect that department or even university might have more of a 'social' mindedness to it. Depends on what you want to study.

    3. Some of this is a self licking ice-cream cone of thought-action-thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by garhkal View Post
    I am just wondering, when is it that we went from where colleges/universities were places where people STUDIED and learned, so they could go out into the real world and get work, to where 'social justice was the and all/be all' and students get to demand anything/everything they want from the owners of said college, and if you didn't bow down to those demands you were wrong??

    Is this whole PC push on campuses geting to be too much??
    Students at the Western Washington University want the dean to build a NEW college campus dedicated to social justice, and that the students have the power to fire anyone they feel is being "micro-aggressing'??

    Sorry, but when the heck do students get the right to demand anything? And what the hell ever happened to freedom of speech??

    http://conservativeangle.com/western...ndoctrination/

    http://www.michiganstandard.com/3704...ndoctrination/

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/07/wa...oaggress-them/

    http://college.usatoday.com/2016/03/...nd-liberation/
    1. Depends on the college. There are some that I would not attend because of the issues you describe. Some focus on the education.

    2. Depends on the major. Along the same lines as someone who goes to college in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan then complains about the winter ... did they think it would be balmy up there?
    If you have someone who is studying social issues, I expect that department or even university might have more of a 'social' mindedness to it. Depends on what you want to study.

    3. Some of this is a self licking ice-cream cone of thought-action-thought.
    The most important six inches on the battlefield ... is between your ears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garhkal View Post
    And what the hell ever happened to freedom of speech??
    Freedom of speech has always been about the government suppressing speech. I'm pretty sure that is not happening in this case, so that does not apply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by efmbman View Post
    Freedom of speech has always been about the government suppressing speech. I'm pretty sure that is not happening in this case, so that does not apply.
    Public Universities are State Institutions. Most of them were founded by state Governments

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainmaker View Post
    Public Universities are State Institutions. Most of them were founded by state Governments
    True, but you missed the point (or I was unclear). I still don't see where any government entity is suppressing free speech. Who's speech is being suppressed and by whom?

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    Quote Originally Posted by efmbman View Post
    True, but you missed the point (or I was unclear). I still don't see where any government entity is suppressing free speech. Who's speech is being suppressed and by whom?
    How is wanting to punish anyone for 'micro-aggressions' not wanting to suppress speech?

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    Quote Originally Posted by efmbman View Post
    True, but you missed the point (or I was unclear). I still don't see where any government entity is suppressing free speech. Who's speech is being suppressed and by whom?
    I got the point and am not agreeing or disagreeing. You bolded government. So, just pointing out that if a state University were found to be suppressing free speech, then they are technically a state institution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garhkal View Post
    How is wanting to punish anyone for 'micro-aggressions' not wanting to suppress speech?
    Is anyone doing that? There are lots of things I want to do, but (fortunately for many) those desires are held in check due to laws. You tend to get all riled up about things that aren't even happening. If it was happening, I would be with you, but man... life is too short to get so upset about things that are proposed by some idiot that never have a chance of happening. Look at it like trolling on the national level. Best to just not respond.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainmaker View Post
    I got the point and am not agreeing or disagreeing. You bolded government. So, just pointing out that if a state University were found to be suppressing free speech, then they are technically a state institution.
    Gotcha. I did bold government so I see how that was miscommunication. My fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by efmbman View Post
    Is anyone doing that? You tend to get all riled up about things that aren't even happening. Look at it like trolling on the national level. Best to just not respond.
    Yes this sort of stupidity is widely reported at the local levels. But largely downplayed by the national media.

    I recently went to my son's commencement and the first 20 minutes of the university president's speech was like drinking EEO cultural awareness training through a fucking firehose.

    It was one bleeding heart wrenching story after another about some non white starving art major or a foreign kid on an H1b visa with a job waiting at Google getting to live out his dream on the taxpayer dime.

    Luckily, Afterwards we went to my kids commissioning ceremony and got de-programmed.

    See,The problem with tolerating this kind of Marxist proggie Bullshit is that it's like a cancer that metastasizes & kills the host if left unchecked.
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