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Thread: Ammo Troop Calls it Quits at 14 Years (viral letter)

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    Quote Originally Posted by FLAPS, USAF (ret) View Post
    I lost count of the number of 50 and older vets with 10 or more years of service who admit regretting getting out short of retirement. Six more years looks like eternity, but seems like only minutes after the fact.
    Oh look, VFF is still alive...lol

    I glance everyone once and a while and saw this post so I thought I would try and contribute some perspective.

    If you didn't get the memo, I got out a couple years ago with more than 12 years in and don't regret it. I imagine many who have done it and are past what would be there over 20 mark probably regret not having the money. But that money is no good if you don't make it to that point... i.e. anyone who has lost their life, especially on that last deployment before retirement or anyone who worked themselves to death (literally) and drops within the first year of retirement.

    But if you got out for reasons that were best for you and your family, you shouldn't regret it. We all could have made different decisions at any point in life that could have provided a higher monetary benefit when we are older.

    Getting out provided me with options that I didn't have in the Air Force. I have a good job and buying my time back, so the 12 years wasn't all for nothing.

    I doubt he expressed every reason why he got out and there is also the possibility that he didn't express what he wanted, how he wanted. I haven't even told all the reasons of why I got out and I won't on here either.

    However, many of the reasons were burnout, getting paid the same as the lazy guy who also got the same EPR ratings because SNCO's and officers have set a precedent of 'not hurting careers', tired of doing everything but what I was trained for nearly a year to do, tired of working long hours because some SNCO/Officer arbitrarily decides we need to under the guise of the 'needs of the Air Force,' sub-par healthcare system (had multiple bad experiences due to dismissive military providers), people think you are malinger when you are on profile due to legitimate medical reasons, and much more. I also had kids and didn't want to risk spending months away from them because of politically motivated combat operations/wars. And one largest contributing factors was practically every person I worked with over the 12 years that was at the 14 - 19 years of service range was not truly happy and were just kicking the can to the end of the road to retirement. I already had that feeling at 12 and didn't want to continue that path; it was depressing.

    Now, I have a great job. I work 40 hours a week. I get paid for overtime. I do the job I was hired to do. I have choices as to where I work/live. I have choices when it comes to healthcare. Simply put, I simply have more control over my life to spend it how I see fit with my family without the risk of being a political pawn.

    And for the comments about pay...I absolutely deplore people who misrepresent what they make on active duty though to get people to feel sorry for them. Many like to take their base pay (or maybe all their pay) and divide it by 24 hrs/day because they are 'on call' 24/7. But no one works 24 hours a day in the military on a routine basis.

    On top of that, active duty makes no monetary healthcare or retirement contributions.

    FEP Blue Family Basic is almost $300/month and then co-pays when you seek care. Although the ability to go almost anywhere you want and see specialists without referral is priceless after experiencing the crappy process of military healthcare for several years and a similar bad experience with VA healthcare.

    FERS Retirement Contribution (not counting buy back contribution) is $200/month.

    Additionally, military income has a huge chunk that is tax free that civilians don't...BAH, BAS, and COLA if applicable.

    Bottom line - military is well compensated and rightly so.

    And I am completely happy with my decision of getting out 'so close.'

    Quote Originally Posted by FLAPS, USAF (ret) View Post
    Late 40's and between jobs. I'm going nuts and WANT a job!
    What type of job are you looking for?

    Quote Originally Posted by garhkal View Post
    From the time i retired in 2012, it took till late 14, before i finally got my first POST military job. Went through both Orion international and Lucas group to try get hired, but most companies it seems when they saw ET though either Computer/Lan technician (IT staff), or Electrical generator/UPS person.. The 2 who saw ET for what it was (close to component repair guy), unfortunately wanted someone who HAD 2M certification or Cal tech certs.. Neither do i have.
    Heck, even trying Walmart, Dollar general, Sears and even Target, never got me past the application stage..

    Unfortunately for me, the security firm i got in with didn't keep me past the 60 day "Probie period" as i didn't to them, pass muster (something to do with me following the LETTER of the law they gave, versus what someone spoke to me about)..
    Now i work with a different security company (Coming up on my 6th week now) and am liking it. Yea, it only pays 9.50 an hr, but when all i do a lot of the time is sit in a backroom at a store overnight when renovations are on going, or stand up by a front door to a shop during the day shifts, its good money for the work.
    Why are y'all having such difficulty? Are you limiting yourselves to a location? The only thing that held me up was the hiring freeze a couple years ago. But after that, I got offered a position and had tons of interview requests that I turned down.

    ET as in Electronics Tech? Are you pursuing any of the ones on USAJOBS?
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    Can't say I'm mad at the guy, he made his decision and will live with it good or bad. Not sure why folks are blasting him though not everyone can or wants to deal with this crap until 20. He is taking his life back and regardless of how you feel about our pay you still give up a chunk of the control of your life even if you feel we're compensated well.

    I ain't made at him at all and wish him the best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VFFTSGT View Post
    Oh look, VFF is still alive...lol
    Damn ... I lost a bet.

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    Yeah, Mjolnir, pay up!

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