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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeKerriii View Post
    Such a provocative act! the US army supplying US army troops at A US Army on United States territory. paying attention to the criminals who were thus provoked would have been a grave mistake.

    And if you read the reasons that the South Carolina legislature succeeded Slavery was the prime reason.

    http://teachingamericanhistory.org/l...-of-secession/

    Slavery ending in a another generation is just a dishonest excuse, And just as baseless as the "war of Noerthern Aggression" idiocy. The traitors were not forced to fire, the chose to commit treason of their own free will.

    There is no evidence that slavery on the south was going to die out in a generation that ignores the millions of people harmed. That is like saying Pimps are going to stop being pimps( my apologies to pimps for the comparison)
    +1 for effort on the pimps analogy....

    But, Yes...... a foreign state sailing a ship into a sovereign state's harbor (to resupply a gun battery they're maintaining in the middle of it) with a warship docked right outside it, would be considered a provocative act.... which, is why they did it.... to provoke the war.

    The majority of the southern leaders who attended the confederate constitutional convention expected a peaceful secession. They were wrong about that.

    Slavery was on its way out. Cotton was already in major decline by the start of the Civil War..... Because, it was cheaper for the Europeans to get it from India and Egypt anyway.

    But, The Northern Industrialists (that owned the The Northern Politicians) wanted to speed up its demise.... because, they wanted to force the southerners to use Immigrant labor from Europe instead, which was cheaper than using slaves (less overhead).

    That and the Southern Womanhood was noticing that the new slaves were starting to look less and less black and more and more brown and they weren't standing for it much longer.

    But, To put it in simple minded terms you can understand....Consider, The Civil war was the "final solution to the American slavery problem", so to speak. It was a genocide.

    After the war Lincoln was planning to repatriate the slaves back to Africa. But, as they say the rest is His-story. Nomsayin?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainmaker View Post
    +1 for effort on the pimps analogy....

    But, Yes...... a foreign state sailing a ship into a sovereign state's harbor (to resupply a gun battery they're maintaining in the middle of it) with a warship docked right outside it, would be considered a provocative act.... which, is why they did it.... to provoke the war.

    The majority of the southern leaders who attended the confederate constitutional convention expected a peaceful secession. They were wrong about that.

    Slavery was on its way out. Cotton was already in major decline by the start of the Civil War..... Because, it was cheaper for the Europeans to get it from India and Egypt anyway.

    But, The Northern Industrialists (that owned the The Northern Politicians) wanted to speed up its demise.... because, they wanted to force the southerners to use Immigrant labor from Europe instead, which was cheaper than using slaves (less overhead).

    That and the Southern Womanhood was noticing that the new slaves were starting to look less and less black and more and more brown and they weren't standing for it much longer.

    But, To put it in simple minded terms you can understand....Consider, The Civil war was the "final solution to the American slavery problem", so to speak. It was a genocide.

    After the war Lincoln was planning to repatriate the slaves back to Africa. But, as they say the rest is His-story. Nomsayin?

    A US ship into a US to resupply a US fort. Try again

    The Pimp analogy work well when used for southern slaveholders Buying and selling flesh of profit, except pimps tend to be more honorable and less vicious and give fewer excuses

    Slavery would have stuck arouse not so much for economic reasons as much as social reasons Southern gentleman (pimps) needed to own slaves for status reasons. Slavery would have remained profitable until the early 20th Century at least.

    The traitorous criminals expecting to get away with the crime of treason is understandable. Criminals usually think they will get away with their crimes. They might have even gotten away with it if they had not gotten stupid/ trigger happy and tried to kill United States Army troops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeKerriii View Post
    A US ship into a US to resupply a US fort. Try again

    The Pimp analogy work well when used for southern slaveholders Buying and selling flesh of profit, except pimps tend to be more honorable and less vicious and give fewer excuses

    Slavery would have stuck arouse not so much for economic reasons as much as social reasons Southern gentleman (pimps) needed to own slaves for status reasons. .
    Agree. the Pimp thing was funny, and it was actually legible!

    It's refreshing to see that you attempted to use Humor in one of your disinformation rants.

    Now, You Don't have to get carried away with it though and say "pimp" several times in every post (like you do with scumbag).

    And, By the way "Mike", Please do pass on my feedback to HQ.
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    Pimp like is simply the most accurate descriptive that I can use without using obscenities, It fits perfectly so why not use it. It was not a attempt at humor it was simply being accurate
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