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    Quote Originally Posted by TJMAC77SP View Post
    Really, you haven't seen anything on the topic??
    ..snip..

    I have been seeing these stories for years, locally and nationally.
    I think MK was more on about 'abuse' in this new program. Not abuse in the phone program.

    BUT nice rundown on links.

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeKerriii View Post
    The program supports many who work, they just don't make enough money.
    What qualifies one as making enough?
    Just like us in the military can't go off our base pay, we need to take in all our allowances and extras to see our 'total' compensation, shouldn't the same be done to the "poor"//

    Lets look at the example this site used
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...rents-welfare/

    Family 1, single mother of 2. She works part time while attending tech school full time. Earned income from her PT work is less than 10k a year.
    Family 2, is a two parent 2 kid household, where one parent also works part time and attends tech school. (didn't mention if the other parent works PT or FT), but goes to say their yearly income is 50k.

    Family 1 gets 5,356 from Wisconsin foodshare. Family 2, gets nada
    Family 1 gets 447 from WiC, Family 2 0.
    Family 1 gets 422 from school lunch programs, Family 2 0.
    Family 1 gets 2,616 from Wisconsin works programs, Family 2. Zilch.
    Family 1 gets 11,219 from something called Wisconsin shares. Family 2. Bupkiss.
    Family 1 gets 9,048 for Section 8 housing benefits. Family 2. You guessed it 0.

    For a sub-total of Public assistance benefits of $29,168 a year for Family 1, and 0 for family 2.

    For Tax benefits, Family 1 is listed as gaining 5,050 a year in federal income tax benefits. Family 2 is listed as gaining 635.
    Family 1 is listed as gaining 440 in state benefits, family 2 actually PAYS 1,147 a year in state taxes. So overall they are at a net loss here.

    Subtotal for taxes, Family 1 gains 5,490 a year, while family 2 Loses 512 bucks.

    Student financial aid
    Both families are on Pel grants, gaining 5,550 for family one a year, and 4,900 a year for family 2.
    Both also receive wisconsin higher education grants, giving family 1 an extra 1,084 a year, while family 2 gains 1,011 a year extra.

    Subtotal for educational assistance.. Family 1 gains a bonus 6,634, while family 2 gains 5,911.

    So family 1's total "Compensation package" is worth to them, $41,292 a year to her and her two kids.
    Family 2 though, their total compensation package is only 5,399 (cause of the net loss for taxes).

    Add that to their pay above, and family 1, clears 10k+41k = 51k.
    Family 2, 50k+5K. So that means not including medical/dental, family 1 is only 4k worse off a year than family 2..

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    Oh cool, millions of low income people will now get their porn for free! I just love his administration, spending like there's no tomorrow. Guess what sports fans, the debt and annual deficits are absolutely unsustainable. After the dollar collapses, and it will, we can add loss of 'free' internet to the growing list of reasons why millions will riot in the streets and break jnto YOUR homes. All brought to you by those who want to make Americans increasingly dependent on government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by garhkal View Post
    I think MK was more on about 'abuse' in this new program. Not abuse in the phone program.............
    In a program that was announced a few days ago? Damn, I hope there isn't wide spread abuse already......................

    Which program were you referring to MKIII
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    Quote Originally Posted by TJMAC77SP View Post
    In a program that was announced a few days ago? Damn, I hope there isn't wide spread abuse already......................

    Which program were you referring to MKIII
    Bothe the Lifeline phone system and the internet for for low income families, neither of which as only been around for a few 20 years is closer for the phone, several years for the internet

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeKerriii View Post
    Bothe the Lifeline phone system and the internet for for low income families, neither of which as only been around for a few 20 years is closer for the phone, several years for the internet
    Huh?

    I thought the internet program was just starting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TJMAC77SP View Post
    Huh?

    I thought the internet program was just starting.
    Olny in comparison to the other program

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    Personally, I think it has to do with intelligence gathering. They want to know what the poor are up to and this is one way to find out via intelligence agency info gathering of course. Here in California, it's free phones to those receiving public assistance.

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    The poor are not the only ones being watched.

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    As was stated, everyone is being spied upon, for their own good and the good of the society! If anyone tries to escape the Great Watching, as some of the hackers do, they will all be 'reeducated'.


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    Seems to me that poor people get all kinds of free shit and rich people get all kinds of free shit. Middle class gets the shaft. I guess if you want free shit you gotta become rich or poor.
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    If internet was free for everyone, people would be crying "communism." That is, if they're not already under the present situation.

    Interesting how we all work for peanuts to make multi-billionaires' wallets fatter, yet we speak of those who don't as if they're the ones with the personality flaws.
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