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    Honor guard OK to march in gay pride events, but NOT ok to go to Church?

    Over the past year and a half, i have seen 3 separate stories in the media and online about the Army (or AF) denying a request for an Honor guard, or other 'military presence' at a church function, EVEN when it was to honor that group. BUT yet we keep seeing Honor guards being sent to LGBT pride events...

    How in gods green earth is this right? If according to the rules and regs, you can't send the Honor guard (Or any other uniformed group) to attend XYZ event, cause it might show 'support' for that event, then how is sending an Honor guard to LGBT pride events NOT also showing support for the LGBT cause??

    http://www.wjla.com/articles/2014/06...me-103846.html

    http://www.localnews7.com/opinion/ar...n-h176836.html

    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/mil.../06/id/575654/

    http://www.ldjackson.net/national-gu...-bible-school/

    http://www.thenewscommenter.com/news...bration/330648

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    Quote Originally Posted by garhkal View Post
    Over the past year and a half, i have seen 3 separate stories in the media and online about the Army (or AF) denying a request for an Honor guard, or other 'military presence' at a church function, EVEN when it was to honor that group. BUT yet we keep seeing Honor guards being sent to LGBT pride events...

    How in gods green earth is this right? If according to the rules and regs, you can't send the Honor guard (Or any other uniformed group) to attend XYZ event, cause it might show 'support' for that event, then how is sending an Honor guard to LGBT pride events NOT also showing support for the LGBT cause??

    http://www.wjla.com/articles/2014/06...me-103846.html

    http://www.localnews7.com/opinion/ar...n-h176836.html

    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/mil.../06/id/575654/

    http://www.ldjackson.net/national-gu...-bible-school/

    http://www.thenewscommenter.com/news...bration/330648
    Here is a crazy idea; why don't you try to read all the articles throughly?

    When you are done reading, if you have an opinion on how the policy was being applied, then share that with us.

    I get the distinct impression that you are just looking at the headlines and then asking us to do all the leg work so we can explain it to you.

    That's intellectual laziness, tsk tsk!
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    Quote Originally Posted by garhkal View Post
    Over the past year and a half, i have seen 3 separate stories in the media and online about the Army (or AF) denying a request for an Honor guard, or other 'military presence' at a church function, EVEN when it was to honor that group. BUT yet we keep seeing Honor guards being sent to LGBT pride events...

    How in gods green earth is this right? If according to the rules and regs, you can't send the Honor guard (Or any other uniformed group) to attend XYZ event, cause it might show 'support' for that event, then how is sending an Honor guard to LGBT pride events NOT also showing support for the LGBT cause??

    http://www.wjla.com/articles/2014/06...me-103846.html

    http://www.localnews7.com/opinion/ar...n-h176836.html

    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/mil.../06/id/575654/

    http://www.ldjackson.net/national-gu...-bible-school/

    http://www.thenewscommenter.com/news...bration/330648
    Unbelievable. In other news, there are uniformed Airmen at the Nellis BX today handing out flyers to advertise the upcoming LGBT Pride 5K Rainbow Run, to be held at the Nellis gym. So, if you feel PRIDE for one's sexual preference, feel free to sign up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by garhkal View Post
    How in gods green earth is this right? If according to the rules and regs, you can't send the Honor guard (Or any other uniformed group) to attend XYZ event, cause it might show 'support' for that event, then how is sending an Honor guard to LGBT pride events NOT also showing support for the LGBT cause??
    Well...it would seem that it's only against the rules and regs if XYZ is a religious event...

    Blame it on the founding fathers...they did NOT build a wall of separation between sexual orientation and state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FLAPS, USAF (ret) View Post
    Unbelievable. In other news, there are uniformed Airmen at the Nellis BX today handing out flyers to advertise the upcoming LGBT Pride 5K Rainbow Run, to be held at the Nellis gym. So, if you feel PRIDE for one's sexual preference, feel free to sign up!
    I think it is hilarious that you are upset over a Rainbow Run.

    You need to go chill-lax at your nearest gay bar, maybe meet some new friends up close and personal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absinthe Anecdote View Post
    I think it is hilarious that you are upset over a Rainbow Run.

    You need to go chill-lax at your nearest gay bar, maybe meet some new friends up close and personal.
    I never stated that I was "upset." I just find it absurd to have an event that celebrates "pride"in having sex with the same sex, while forbiding events in support of religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FLAPS, USAF (ret) View Post
    I never stated that I was "upset." I just find it absurd to have an event that celebrates "pride"in having sex with the same sex, while forbiding events in support of religion.
    That is simple to explain, one is secular the other is an endorsement of a specific faith. The former is lawful the latter is not sine you can't order someone to participate in a religious ceremony of any knd

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    Quote Originally Posted by FLAPS, USAF (ret) View Post
    I never stated that I was "upset."
    I'll be the judge of that. If I say you sound upset, then you're upset.

    I'm also labeling you anti-gay until you run in two Rainbow 5Ks.

    Oh, don't forget to wear your ribbon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeKerriii View Post
    That is simple to explain, one is secular the other is an endorsement of a specific faith. The former is lawful the latter is not sine you can't order someone to participate in a religious ceremony of any knd
    In your opinion, is it ok to order someone to attend a Gay Pride event?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FLAPS, USAF (ret) View Post
    In your opinion, is it ok to order someone to attend a Gay Pride event?
    Since there is l no legal bar to doing so, unlike a church event, why the hell not? I had to stand in formation once for a POS named Richard Nixon, but that like the rally was a legal order. Ordering someone to a church service is not a lawful order, ask any Chaplain.

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