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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainmaker View Post
    I don't trust the media's obvious reporting bias on the popular support for the Gay Agenda either. Goebbels would be impressed with the mass propaganda effort .

    Now, I'm basing this on my own observations. I've been coaching High school kids in American Legion Baseball for over 15 years. The type of kids we usually coach in our program would be a recruiter's dream. Strong families, athletic, smart, patriotic, clean cut, drug free....

    Over the years, I've made it a point to present Military Service as being a good option to consider and a Nobel profession. Increasingly, there is resistance to this among the parents about their kids risking getting killed for a society that no longer seems to represent their views. It's the same with the police forces. Whether this is being all done deliberately by design or just through Moronic socialist policies, matters not because the end result will be the same.

    A lot of people are disgusted by what's happening. The whole world is looking at this Freak Show and wondering how we're allowing this to be happening. And this is Exactly the path Rome went down and why I brought up.

    Eventually the citizens became so apathetic that they no longer felt it was worth defending the corrupted empire.
    I am not as alarmist and pessimistic as you.

    While I will agree that American economic and political power is in a state of decline, I don't see it as being analogous to what happened to the Roman Empire.

    I certainly would not link LGBT issues to the reason that our country is losing influence on global affairs.

    Go read through that NIC report I posted, if you dare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TJMAC77SP View Post
    True enough. Hell, long before DADT I served with obviously gay people and for the most part they were accepted. There was a shake of the head and life went on.

    I am disheartened by the vehemence I see towards Caitlyn Jenner (figure I better get on the train and call her that). The stuff coming from the radical Christian right I expect but the stuff I see on FB from otherwise moderate people, in some cases friends. Posts of soldiers and Jenner with a caption referencing the courage award she is to receive. Stupid....just stupid.

    To my knowledge Jenner herself has not referred to herself as having courage or being a hero. She has said she hopes to help the TG community, particularly as a GOP member with friends in the party. That is a good thing.

    Does anyone with six brain cells the work in conjunction believe that she (or an TG individual) would CHOOSE (emphasis, not yelling) to be the way they are? Of course not, it is a life of hell. Watch the ABC interview with Jenner. You can see the pain he went through on the way to becoming her. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
    What I'd like to know TJ, is when in the hell did the fix action for a mentally ill person become for the patient to mutilate themselves?

    This is right up there with the Lobotomy experiments that went on in the 20's and 30's in the hospitals for the criminally insane.

    When I was on Active duty, I had 3 herniated disks and TRICARE couldn't even authorize me to go see a Chiropractor. Hell, It practically took an act of Congress for a troop of mine to get LASIK..... And now all of a sudden the DoD is supporting Dudes chopping off their Twig and Berries, and taking huge doses of Hormones so that they can become Lesbians??!!! WTF??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absinthe Anecdote View Post

    Go read through that NIC report I posted, if you dare.
    yeah, I plan to read it tonight. But, I take everything that comes out of the bloated ass intel bureaucracy with a grain of salt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainmaker View Post
    What I'd like to know TJ, is when in the hell did the fix action for a mentally ill person become for the patient to mutilate themselves?

    This is right up there with the Lobotomy experiments that went on in the 20's and 30's in the hospitals for the criminally insane.

    When I was on Active duty, I had 3 herniated disks and TRICARE couldn't even authorize me to go see a Chiropractor. Hell, It practically took an act of Congress for a troop of mine to get LASIK..... And now all of a sudden the DoD is supporting Dudes chopping off their Twig and Berries, and taking huge doses of Hormones so that they can become Lesbians??!!! WTF??
    I have been told in the past that I am alcohol dependent by the good people at ADAPT. What I don't understand now is why they couldn't just love me for who I am? Why did they insist on trying to change me? Wouldn't it make more sense for me to just be happy as the person I am? They should have supported me in my binge drinking. It wasn't a choice, I was born this way.

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    I cannot imagine feeling so alienated by my own body that I felt the need to even consider gender reassignment ... so I can't fully understand it.

    That said, it cannot be easy to take such a step on the individual or their families. I may not understand or even agree, but everyone deserves respect as an individual. I may not agree or even like their personal decisions, but I don't see them when I look in the mirror.
    The most important six inches on the battlefield ... is between your ears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SomeRandomGuy View Post
    I have been told in the past that I am alcohol dependent by the good people at ADAPT. What I don't understand now is why they couldn't just love me for who I am? Why did they insist on trying to change me? Wouldn't it make more sense for me to just be happy as the person I am? They should have supported me in my binge drinking. It wasn't a choice, I was born this way.
    Poor baby. They did treat you the same way as a transgender because they supported you in making your change.

    Now dry your little eyes and stop crying, you are just like a transgender and are a special little snowflake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjölnir View Post
    You are mixing terms, the standard is anyone healthy enough, intelligent enough and with the moral qualifications (lack of serious police record), but the base of whom the military recruits are people from rural areas with below avg populated zip codes & who identify with some type of religion --almost 70% of whom are some type of Christian (roughly 25% do not declare one or declare atheist).
    Those number make the military essential no more Christian than the general pubic is, proving at least part of my point. And Christian doesn't mean Conservative by any means. A majority of Americans are Christian and a majority f people have no trouble with the social changes in the military. This will be like the repeal of DAFT., a few scumbags will leave and the better folks will soldier on.

    As I said, just as in 1948 the folks who leave will be improving the military by their leaving

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    Quote Originally Posted by TJMAC77SP View Post
    Treason is defined by a lot of sources. I suppose there are (maybe) some die hard Britons who still think of the founding fathers as traitors. I think RM was subtly pointing out your superfluous use of the word to make your point
    In the case of US law it is defined, for purposes of law, only in one place. They committed treason against the United States and desreve no more respect for that that other traitors like the Rosenburgs deserve. Their treason is a textbook Case4 of treason under US law , my use was intentional not superfluous

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainmaker View Post
    This is a good point and yet those who fought on the side of the Confederacy weren't charged. There are 2 reasons for this.

    1. it wouldn't have held up in court. Article 1 Section 8 gave the states the right to secede. South Carolina seceded peacefully, it wasn't until 5 months later when the Union resupplied Ft. Sumter (an act of war) that shots were fired.

    2. About 30% of civil war soldiers fought on the side of the confederacy (including 3,000 of the 10,000 jews that served) and it just wouldn't have been practical to try them all with treason. My point is that people largely fought based on where they lived.

    The Civil war is the greatest tragedy in American History and never needed to be fought. Slavery was the pretext for the Northern Industrialists to get rid of the politicians of the Southern Honor Society, that couldn't be bought off and wouldn't just roll over to their demands for centralization of power. Slavery was a dying institution and would've collapsed on its own in another generation. Mostly everyone in the country at the time (other than the Christian abolitionists) were White Supremacists.
    Too bad you histroy education is so bad, the South initated both the legal civil war, vile sub-human scum in South Carolini were the ones that imitated the violence in the first place. How did the Northern merchants for the South Carolina Legislature to coimmit treason? How did the force anu ot the rest of that tratoresous scum to commit treason? that lie is getting old, hell it was old by 1862.


    Quote Originally Posted by Rainmaker View Post
    What do you mean by "vocal" atheist? what do you go around with a bullhorn shouting God is dead or something? My son just commissioned last month as an Army Infantry Officer. Largely because, just Like yours, his family comes from a long line going all the way back to the Revolutionary war. I have several ancestors that served on the side of the Union in the MD Potomac Home Brigade. My wife is from the Panhandle of Florida and they have a different view of the history.
    I have met many southerners with the view of History that it was the North that started the war, but I put that down to a poor education, The south started the violence, in defense of er right to harm other'


    Quote Originally Posted by Rainmaker View Post
    So, are you saying the post WW2 military is a more effective combat force than the one that defeated the Axis? You do realize that The US military hasn't won a war since it was desegregated. Correct?
    Are you stupid enough to think they are related, the most decorated US Military Unit who fought against the Nazis was composed almost entirely of people of color.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainmaker View Post

    So, this is a military necessity because of the hordes of transvestites are now going to be eligible to serve? Is that right? I'd ask At what cost? The net effect of this constant drumbeat of the Communist Social Engineering is to undermine the reputation and morale of the military with the group that disproportionately serves in the combat arms in the greatest numbers. Rural White Men.

    The military exists to fight and win the nation's wars, not to serve as a proving ground for LBGT Utopian dreams of Combat Barbie.
    At what cost a few scumbags will leave, improving the force immensely



    Quote Originally Posted by Rainmaker View Post
    Yep, But, then there's also this... "Whenever any form of government becomes destructive of the ends for which it was established, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government"
    The few ignorant redneck haters that remain in the US are not significant enough to make that change, no more that your ilk stopped The end of military intergration and the civil rights act. In the long term bigoted scum lose

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    Ok PC historical revisionism aside, bear with me Mike, because Rainmaker's reading between the dyslexic lines and trying to understand what you're saying....

    So then, in a nutshell you seem to be saying that it's of a military necessity that we put transgenders into the military in order to rid it of the vile sub-human Christian scum that currently inhabit it...

    AND also, that the most decorated fighting unit of World War 2 was a segregated unit. Therefore, desegregated Military units are the most cohesive and combat effective.... Now, Did I sum that up correctly?
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