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    Quote Originally Posted by garhkal View Post
    Or maybe they HAVE figured out those camps in Mexico are ISIS camps and are training to go in!
    The only reason I'm bringing up the subject of ISIS training camps in Mexico is because the same congress critters/media sources that are behind this current military exercise "conspiracy" are one in the same. These folks have no "credibility" and this story has been completely debunked (Ref. Google/snopes.com).
    The subject of ISIS training camps in Mexico is just one example of the stupid stuff these clowns push. Some simple (odds/probability) based facts;

    USA Muslim Population; 2,600,000 plus, based on 2010 census.

    Texas Muslim Population; 421,972, based on 2010 census.

    Canada Muslim Population; 1,053,945, based on 2011 census.

    Mexico Muslim Population; 3,700 and one of the lowest numbers of Muslims in such a large country on planet earth, based on 2010 census. Also half of those 3,700 Muslims are Shiites and Ahmadiyya Muslim (You know the kind of Muslims that are preferred ISIS head lopping material).

    Note; The USA has a Islamic extremist problem and it has very little if anything to do with Mexico at this time. These Islamic extremist are already here legally (in vast numbers) or can travel here legally (in vast numbers).

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    Perhaps a smily at the end of my post would have made you realize i was trying to be sarcastic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FLAPS, USAF (ret) View Post
    Sounds crazy. That said, how do you KNOW their concerns are unwarranted?
    Twenty plus years of service in the US military for one reason, knowing people in the SOF community, some family, for another and the most important one being sane. this is just "Robbins Sage' writ large

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeKerriii View Post
    Twenty plus years of service in the US military for one reason, knowing people in the SOF community, some family, for another and the most important one being sane. this is just "Robbins Sage' writ large
    I don't question the loyalty or patriotism of most people serving in the US Military, especially the SOF. However, contrary to what many people assume, MOST military members WILL follow orders they aren't comfortable with. For the most part, they will do it out of fear of being punished. History has shown that, time and again. It won't change if there's ever a time where US military members are ordered to take action against US citizens. And to think it could never happen is just plain ignorant. If ignorance makes people feel warm and cozy, then so be it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FLAPS, USAF (ret) View Post
    I don't question the loyalty or patriotism of most people serving in the US Military, especially the SOF. However, contrary to what many people assume, MOST military members WILL follow orders they aren't comfortable with. For the most part, they will do it out of fear of being punished. History has shown that, time and again. It won't change if there's ever a time where US military members are ordered to take action against US citizens. And to think it could never happen is just plain ignorant. If ignorance makes people feel warm and cozy, then so be it.
    You don't question the loyalty, ? The rest of your post is a direct and insulting questioning of their loyalty

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeKerriii View Post
    You don't question the loyalty, ? The rest of your post is a direct and insulting questioning of their loyalty
    That's not what I intended to convey. If the US military is involved in exercises in preparation for any type of future action against US citizens (which I have no knowledge of), then I don't blame the individual soldier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FLAPS, USAF (ret) View Post
    That's not what I intended to convey. If the US military is involved in exercises in preparation for any type of future action against US citizens (which I have no knowledge of), then I don't blame the individual soldier.
    If the indvidual soldier knows that is happening, it is his duty, by oath to act,. It is not a option. thinking that you can get hindered or thousands to act that way without one saying no is a grave insult. even at Mai Lia against a forgiven enemy some said no and were willing to put their asses on the line to stop it. If t American Soldiers would follow orders that easily the military brass would have been running the country for centuries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeKerriii View Post
    You don't question the loyalty, ? The rest of your post is a direct and insulting questioning of their loyalty
    But i do agree, many military do seem to follow orders they disagree with just out of fear of reprisals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garhkal View Post
    But i do agree, many military do seem to follow orders they disagree with just out of fear of reprisals.
    I feel this thread is leading back to PYB's topic.

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