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    Required to attend LGBT training at colleges.. right or wrong?

    Saw this on the GOPUSA site, but also on breibart and several other "NON mainstream sites'..

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...vity-training/

    http://www.educationviews.org/george...vity-training/

    Should a College campus be allowed to REQUIRE students to attend LGBT training if it would go against their religious beliefs? And if those students refuse to attend it, should they be getting labeled as racists, hate filled etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by garhkal View Post
    Saw this on the GOPUSA site, but also on breibart and several other "NON mainstream sites'..

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...vity-training/

    http://www.educationviews.org/george...vity-training/

    Should a College campus be allowed to REQUIRE students to attend LGBT training if it would go against their religious beliefs? And if those students refuse to attend it, should they be getting labeled as racists, hate filled etc?
    Sure, just as long as they make it mandatory to take a course on the US Constitution. Won't happen though, as too many professors despise America and hate the Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garhkal View Post
    Saw this on the GOPUSA site, but also on breibart and several other "NON mainstream sites'..

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...vity-training/

    http://www.educationviews.org/george...vity-training/

    Should a College campus be allowed to REQUIRE students to attend LGBT training if it would go against their religious beliefs? And if those students refuse to attend it, should they be getting labeled as racists, hate filled etc?
    They should not be allowed to make anyone attend any training unless it is a requirement directly related to their degree. They've already got "training" for freshmen about drinking, sexual assault, etc, that is patronizing. This is just another thing to add to it. Imagine if they tried to make it mandatory to attend a "tolerance of religion" class.

    It's no different than the military conducting the same types of training, except with GIs they can make it mandatory, whether ethical or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandsjames View Post
    They should not be allowed to make anyone attend any training unless it is a requirement directly related to their degree. They've already got "training" for freshmen about drinking, sexual assault, etc, that is patronizing. This is just another thing to add to it. Imagine if they tried to make it mandatory to attend a "tolerance of religion" class.

    It's no different than the military conducting the same types of training, except with GIs they can make it mandatory, whether ethical or not.
    I had the same thought SJ (regarding the religious tolerance training). I don't condone the ill-treatment of anyone based on some prejudice but it seems that the issues are cherry-picked and targeted for outrage
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    Quote Originally Posted by TJMAC77SP View Post
    I had the same thought SJ (regarding the religious tolerance training). I don't condone the ill-treatment of anyone based on some prejudice but it seems that the issues are cherry-picked and targeted for outrage
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    Quote Originally Posted by sandsjames View Post
    They should not be allowed to make anyone attend any training unless it is a requirement directly related to their degree. They've already got "training" for freshmen about drinking, sexual assault, etc, that is patronizing. This is just another thing to add to it. Imagine if they tried to make it mandatory to attend a "tolerance of religion" class.

    It's no different than the military conducting the same types of training, except with GIs they can make it mandatory, whether ethical or not.
    Exactly. Heck when you see colleges going after the 10 commandments and other signs of religion, how can it be ok to then make it a requirement to attend "sensitivity training" for the other side of the issue.??

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    Quote Originally Posted by garhkal View Post
    Exactly. Heck when you see colleges going after the 10 commandments and other signs of religion, how can it be ok to then make it a requirement to attend "sensitivity training" for the other side of the issue.??
    On the flip side...why not?

    Why shouldn't a private college be able to teach the things they find valuable? Whether it is a Catholic University teaching the 10 commandments, or a secular University, let's say, teaching against them?
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    Here's an idea: the school no longer mandates LGBT tolerance courses. This, of course, leaves the school more vulnerable to litigation. So if an incident occurs on campus, whatever it costs the school gets equally divided among the students who did not attend the course and it gets added to their tuition. So now we've got freedom of choice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Jones View Post
    Here's an idea: the school no longer mandates LGBT tolerance courses. This, of course, leaves the school more vulnerable to litigation. So if an incident occurs on campus, whatever it costs the school gets equally divided among the students who did not attend the course and it gets added to their tuition. So now we've got freedom of choice!
    Here's the thing. I understand the classes are a CYA thing but even that is a symptom of the problem. You are in HR so you can appreciate this story. My dad was in HR for a company that made fiberglass sleepers for tractor-trailers. They hired lots of temp employees because no one really enjoys working in a fiberglass plant. Anyways, when the employees were spraying fiberglass they would wear full body zip up suits sorta like AF flight suits. The suits were kind of a pain to get off because particles of fiber glass would get caught in there and what not. Anyways, they hire a female temp employee. She's finishing up her shift and about to take her suit off. The zipper is jammed. She turns to a supervisor who is walking by carrying some supplies. She says, "Hey, can you unzip me?" He looks down (hands full) looks at her and says, "With what, my teeth?"

    She sues the company for sexual harrassment. She somehow fucking wins in court because the company couldn't prove it trained employees about sexual harrassment.

    Maybe this also proves what you are saying Rusty, but it also brings up a larger issue. First off, the remark was in jest and clearly not meant in a sexual way. The woman who sued was jobless and looking for money. Third, even if the supervisor meant it in a sexual way, he would have known it was wrong and no amount of training would change that.

    So I guess the point Sandsjames is making is that you shoudln't need classes to teach people right and wrong. All of the sensitivty training is strictly a CYA thing based on frivelous lawsuits.

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