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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjölnir View Post
    There has always been bias; most of the original founders had opinions published in their day ... they weren’t wasn’t neutral.
    Yeah, with the exception of George Washington, who was nearly universally revered until later in life, the founders all endured pretty vicious attacks in the media, often from each other.

    What I am getting at is my thought that in our modern era and pundits have gone much further than anytime in the past and are on often tying anything / everything to an agenda.
    I'm not sure that this is anything new.

    Combine that with the far too often exposed confirmation bias despite the availability of information and ... well ... here we are.
    Yes, I think consuming media requires critical reading/watching/listening....detecting bias and apply a grain of salt whether the source is something you want to hear or don't want to hear. We are lacking that, for sure, again, not sure it's ever been any different.

    The 24/7 news cycle of cable news maybe highlights it differently...and it's easier to compare sources in real time responding to the same input....but I think the ideal of the 'objective reporting' of facts is and pretty much always has been a myth. The media was created to advance political agendas and has probably always been used for it.

    I can't say that it is much further than anytime in the past...I think most of what people declare today as the "worst in history" "most attacked in history", etc....are just kind of ignorant of history, tbh
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    The 2016 Women's Olympic 800m.

    All three medalists were intersex women. Not Trans. They were all born with vaginas, and while I haven't read the complete history on all 3, what I did read on Caster Semenya is that she has XY chromosomes (male) and testosterone 3X higher than typical female.

    I think rulings continue to go back and forth on banning them, then reinstating them...or forcing them to take testosterone reducing drugs to bring their levels more inline with typical females.

    This of course is a different issue than Trans athletes in that the intersex phenomenon is naturally occurring....one could argue just like Shaquille O'neal's naturally occurring 7'1" height gave him an unfair advantage is basketball, but hey that's what athletic gifts are all about.

    Is intersex a natural athletic gift or should they be banned from competing? Some have predicted that if allowed to proceed, in some years time, most women's athletic champions will be intersex. Well, they went 1-2-3 in the women's 800m in the last Olympics.

    I'm not in favor of favor of Trans people competing...I think that's pretty unfair. Live your life how you want, but one of the consequences is giving up your athletic career. I believe there was just an NCAA track champion that competing for 2 or 3 years as a mediocre runner on the men's team, then transitioned and became the national champion woman....just wrong.


    I'm a little more confused about the intersex ones....I see the unfairness, but that it is naturally occurring makes me pause a little. God don't make mistakes, right? There are only men and women.
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