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    Spangdahlem wing commanders sacked

    Don't know the guy...in reading some of the comments, sounds like maybe he was too gruff for some folks...no misconduct noted.

    Col. Peter M. Bilodeau, the commander of the 52nd Fighter Wing at Spangdahlem Air Base, Germany, was relieved of command on Tuesday after less than six months on the job because of loss of faith and confidence in his leadership, U.S. Air Forces in Europe announced.

    Bilodeau, who was removed by Lt. Gen. Darryl Roberson, the commander of the 3rd Air Force, was not relieved for any misconduct or wrongdoing, according to USAFE.

    read more: http://www.stripes.com/news/spangdah...-duty-1.321678
    I dunno...I was always taught that unless the guy is doing someone illegal, immoral, or unethical...he's allowed to be an ass, if that's even the case, here...no law against that.

    I suppose operating at that level...wing commander...comes with different guidelines, I'm sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Measure Man View Post
    Don't know the guy...in reading some of the comments, sounds like maybe he was too gruff for some folks...no misconduct noted.



    I dunno...I was always taught that unless the guy is doing someone illegal, immoral, or unethical...he's allowed to be an ass, if that's even the case, here...no law against that.

    I suppose operating at that level...wing commander...comes with different guidelines, I'm sure.
    Who knows what the dreaded "lost confidence" actually means... If Rainmaker had to guess. it means he Must of giggled a little when he was "facilitating" during one of those ridiculous SAPR training group breakout sessions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Measure Man View Post
    Don't know the guy...in reading some of the comments, sounds like maybe he was too gruff for some folks...no misconduct noted.



    I dunno...I was always taught that unless the guy is doing someone illegal, immoral, or unethical...he's allowed to be an ass, if that's even the case, here...no law against that.

    I suppose operating at that level...wing commander...comes with different guidelines, I'm sure.
    Either too gruff or didn't march to the Gen's orders like the Gen thought he should.

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    Fail a PT test?
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    PT test is definitely the reason! It is all that matters in today's Air Force. Pass your PT test and don't rape anyone and you are good to go.

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    Actually you can get away with rape if you know the right person AND you pass a PT test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drackore View Post
    Actually you can get away with rape if you know the right person AND you pass a PT test.
    Is that really the perception? Almost half of my watch team is Air Force & most of our back office is Air Force and I never hear them complaining about the AF PT Program -- and we discuss a lot of issues, they have complaints I just don't hear it about the PT Program.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainmaker View Post
    Who knows what the dreaded "lost confidence" actually means...
    It means exactly what it says the boss "lost confidence" that the commander had the ability to effectively lead.

    The specifics could be a number of things:
    -pending legal action that is a distraction to the mission.
    -pending administrative action that is a distraction to the mission.
    -bad command climate.
    -conviction at NJP (would probably be mentioned in the article though.)
    -failure to uphold the standards of command (of which maintaining PT / height and weight would be one -- lead by example and all.)
    -poor performance in the job (apply the Peter Principle here.)
    The most important six inches on the battlefield is between your ears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stalwart View Post
    Is that really the perception? Almost half of my watch team is Air Force & most of our back office is Air Force and I never hear them complaining about the AF PT Program -- and we discuss a lot of issues, they have complaints I just don't hear it about the PT Program.
    It is mostly the muldoons that congregate on this forum that cry like little babies over PT. When I was still active back when PT was ramping up, it was only the ones who needed PT the most that cried about it.

    The fatties and the slobs, hopefully most of them are gone by now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stalwart View Post
    It means exactly what it says the boss "lost confidence" that the commander had the ability to effectively lead.

    The specifics could be a number of things:
    -pending legal action that is a distraction to the mission.
    -pending administrative action that is a distraction to the mission.
    -bad command climate.
    -conviction at NJP (would probably be mentioned in the article though.)
    -failure to uphold the standards of command (of which maintaining PT / height and weight would be one -- lead by example and all.)
    -poor performance in the job (apply the Peter Principle here.)
    Rainmaker taking full odds on..........

    He grabbed her hooters

    (This is a fictional poem)

    I warned her not to give him a ride on the back of her scooter.
    As she gave him the ride, he grabbed her hooters.
    This caused her to wreck her new bike.
    Her scooter got damaged and this was something she didn't like.
    She grabbed a hatchet and put another crack in his butt.
    Then she used her stungun to fry his nuts.
    He couldn't have sex for two weeks because he had no feeling down there.
    He missed the chance to sleep with a model and he's mad because he thinks it
    was unfair.
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