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    Quote Originally Posted by garhkal View Post
    Why is it (or so it seems to me) that humiliating people like this is ok, but "naming and shaming" of actual criminals to a lot of people is seen as wrong?
    I'd say that this is about the same; at least to me. Some people need to be able to look down on others in order to sleep at night; I don't. When I'm on facebook and I see the local news channel post a mug shot, I can't help but shake my head at all of the comments.

    I don't hate these people for their comments, but I can't help but think that when the media - or the courts, or politicians - throw people out there for us to look down on, that our attention is being diverted away from people who are doing even more damage in our society.

    If I saw a faker, I'd probably ask one or two questions (just to confirm my suspicion) and then leave it alone. But to draw attention to him, much less make a video and put it on youtube? That's just not something I'd do.

    To put this in perspective, I'm not knocking anyone who WOULD do it; I'm just saying I wouldn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Jones View Post
    I'd say that this is about the same; at least to me. Some people need to be able to look down on others in order to sleep at night; I don't. When I'm on facebook and I see the local news channel post a mug shot, I can't help but shake my head at all of the comments.

    I don't hate these people for their comments, but I can't help but think that when the media - or the courts, or politicians - throw people out there for us to look down on, that our attention is being diverted away from people who are doing even more damage in our society.

    If I saw a faker, I'd probably ask one or two questions (just to confirm my suspicion) and then leave it alone. But to draw attention to him, much less make a video and put it on youtube? That's just not something I'd do.

    To put this in perspective, I'm not knocking anyone who WOULD do it; I'm just saying I wouldn't.
    It is unfortunate that some people go out of their way to 'ruin the lives' of some these Stolen Valor folks; many of them are just sad individuals. In some cases it does seem excessive.

    In some cases, where you have people who have gotten material goods, money, jobs etc based on false claims I have no issue with letting the public know they have misrepresented their military service.

    This guy ... Don Shipley ... is a retired Senior Chief SeAL runs a SeAL training program in Chesapeake VA makes a point of verifying queries about guys claiming to be a SeAL and outs guys who fake being a Navy SeAL. He has a YouTube Channel where he records his phone calls to them. Pretty intersting stuff ... sometimes funny, mostly sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stalwart View Post
    It is unfortunate that some people go out of their way to 'ruin the lives' of some these Stolen Valor folks; many of them are just sad individuals. In some cases it does seem excessive.

    In some cases, where you have people who have gotten material goods, money, jobs etc based on false claims I have no issue with letting the public know they have misrepresented their military service.

    This guy ... Don Shipley ... is a retired Senior Chief SeAL runs a SeAL training program in Chesapeake VA makes a point of verifying queries about guys claiming to be a SeAL and outs guys who fake being a Navy SeAL. He has a YouTube Channel where he records his phone calls to them. Pretty intersting stuff ... sometimes funny, mostly sad.

    https://www.youtube.com/user/Buds131
    That video of him and his wife hunting was fucking hilarious. "Ya gut shot him..." Priceless.
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    Fake Marine in Army uniform: http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/84397155/

    I would personally leave this guy alone, as doing what the maker of the video did... I equate to making fun of retarded people. But this is funny nonetheless. This faker made no real attempt to assert himself like the subject of the video in OP did.
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    Saw this clip on Yahoo this evening:

    http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2014/...2181419615804/

    I have to agree that it is pathetic and many of these people are mentally disturbed/unbalanced. The problem is when these fakers use their deceit to get something. The guy in this video allegedly was able to get a discount on the coffee he bought at Starbuck's. That is messed up. I think it isn't just a case of these people faking; the problem is a lot of these people are truly stealing valor by using the uniform to obtain something for it. Shaming and identifying these people probably isn't such a bad idea because too much of it is happening and these people need to be put in check.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BURAWSKI View Post
    Saw this clip on Yahoo this evening:

    http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2014/...2181419615804/

    I have to agree that it is pathetic and many of these people are mentally disturbed/unbalanced. The problem is when these fakers use their deceit to get something. The guy in this video allegedly was able to get a discount on the coffee he bought at Starbuck's. That is messed up. I think it isn't just a case of these people faking; the problem is a lot of these people are truly stealing valor by using the uniform to obtain something for it. Shaming and identifying these people probably isn't such a bad idea because too much of it is happening and these people need to be put in check.
    You just posted the same video I did.

    I agree with what you said to some extent, but the reality of the situation is that just because he's wrong and you're right doesn't mean that you can't be the one coming out of the situation looking like the asshole. Thankfully, the guy who made the video that you and I posted didn't cross that line. He came pretty close to it, though. The guy who made the video in the OP, though? Yeah, he crossed that line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Jones View Post
    You just posted the same video I did.

    I agree with what you said to some extent, but the reality of the situation is that just because he's wrong and you're right doesn't mean that you can't be the one coming out of the situation looking like the asshole. Thankfully, the guy who made the video that you and I posted didn't cross that line. He came pretty close to it, though. The guy who made the video in the OP, though? Yeah, he crossed that line.
    The guy in the OP did lose his temper, but I can understand it. I see scores of dudes panhandling and claiming to be veterans, and I never believe any of them because they all seem as plausible as this guy.

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    Here's a link to a video that I think crosses the line; i.e., someone who is in the right making themselves look like a bigger asshole than the person in the wrong. Seriously... who the hell is he to tell someone else to disrobe?

    http://www.myfoxphilly.com/clip/1129...eteran-says-so
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