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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Jones View Post
    Regardless of whether or not it's an accident, the legalization of financial abortion for men will still affect a woman's decision whether or not terminate the pregnancy.
    Legalization of "financial abortion for men" is a great idea that will never happen.

    When it comes to paying child support, men will probably never be treated fairly...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SomeRandomGuy View Post
    Interesting....So, the man would just fill out paperwork saying he is "aborting" his child? At that point, if the woman carries it to term (her choice of course), she is the mother but the child has no father? Wouldn't it be weird having people walking around who as far as the state is concerned have no father? I imagine it would put a human face on abortion. I also have to imagine the amount of children aborted by their fathers would be far higher than the number that have been aborted by their mothers.

    You do bring up an interesting point though Rusty. If abortion isn't an option for fathers maybe we could allow adoption. "I don't want to support my child, would anyone else like to? If you pay child support you can legally become his father and even get visitation/custody rights"
    "I don't want to support my child, would anyone else like to?

    We already have this with the Socialist Welfare state we have now. Take away Welfare and a lot of this goes away. Abortion on demand is a part of the Communist agenda to destroy the Family.

    This Government doesn't value Fatherhood. This Government has replaced the Father with the Welfare state. This Government considers a Child the property of the Mother and the Father is only required to partially fund them, with everyone else picking up the balance of the tab.

    What kind of Irresponsible piece of Shit wants to abort or will abandon his own child?

    If a Father wants to parent his child then, the mother should be forced to Carry it to term and then hand over custody to the Father.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainmaker View Post
    "I don't want to support my child, would anyone else like to?

    We already have this with the Socialist Welfare state we have now. Take away Welfare and a lot of this goes away. Abortion on demand is a part of the Communist agenda to destroy the Family.

    This Government doesn't value Fatherhood. This Government has replaced the Father with the Welfare state. This Government considers a Child the property of the Mother and the Father is only required to partially fund them, with everyone else picking up the balance of the tab.

    What kind of Irresponsible piece of Shit wants to abort or will abandon his own child?

    If a Father wants to parent his child then, the mother should be forced to Carry it to term and then hand over custody to the Father.
    I don't think women are in their right mind to make a decision like abortion since the baby is already screwing with her hormones which control her thought processes. We treat women for post partum depression and kills the baby in the crib, don't you think that same hormone imbalance isn't going on when a woman wants to end the life of her baby in utero? Another example of the left being anti-science.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WILDJOKER5 View Post
    I don't think women are in their right mind to make a decision like abortion since the baby is already screwing with her hormones which control her thought processes. We treat women for post partum depression and kills the baby in the crib, don't you think that same hormone imbalance isn't going on when a woman wants to end the life of her baby in utero? Another example of the left being anti-science.
    Never thought of that angle there WJ.. I agree in part, that women's hormones are imbalanced all to heck when in pregnancy (see all their weird eating habits), but whether that means they are not of sound mind and judgement to make a consent or not i don't know.

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