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    Aliens will go to hell?

    Creationist Ken Ham Says Aliens Will Go To Hell So Let's Stop Looking For Them


    Creationist Ken Ham, who recently debated Bill Nye the Science Guy over the origins of the universe, is calling for an end to the search for extraterrestrial life because aliens probably don't exist -- and if they do, they're going to Hell anyway.

    "You see, the Bible makes it clear that Adam’s sin affected the whole universe," Ham wrote on his blog on Sunday. "This means that any aliens would also be affected by Adam’s sin, but because they are not Adam’s descendants, they can’t have salvation."

    The post was driven in part by NASA experts saying that they expect to find evidence of alien life within the next 20 years.

    "It's highly improbable in the limitless vastness of the universe that we humans stand alone," NASA administrator Charles Bolden said last week.

    But Ham, president and CEO of Answers in Genesis and the Creation Museum in Petersburg, Ky., said we probably are alone. He wrote "earth was specially created," and the entire hunt for extraterrestrials is "really driven by man’s rebellion against God in a desperate attempt to supposedly prove evolution!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Measure Man View Post
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    It's ridiculous and hypothetical. But let's play the hypothetical game.

    Let's assume there is a God. Let's assume there are aliens. It would be fair to say that the aliens would also have their own Adam and Eve and that Jesus would have also saved them.

    What annoys me to no ends is people who claim that if it isn't in the bible then it couldn't have occurred anywhere at any time.

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    Combined with how selfish/self centered it is, to think that in this vast universe, we are the only sentient life out there with our own god.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garhkal View Post
    Combined with how selfish/self centered it is, to think that in this vast universe, we are the only sentient life out there with our own god.
    Hypothetically, if there is a God and he created everything as is believed by many than I think it's very possible that, even if there are other people out there, we have the same God. I think that, in this situation, that the selfish/self centered thing in the OP is that anyone who believes in God would believe that he would create others and not allow them to be saved.

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    Why?

    On our own planet, we have had multiple pantheons of gods, with multiple varieties of rewards (and punishments) in the afterlife.

    Why would anyone assume that aliens would have the same concept of afterlife punishment as their own religion?

    Lack of intelligent thought is not unique to anybody in our society, but it seems to concentrate in certain social groups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by garhkal View Post
    Combined with how selfish/self centered it is, to think that in this vast universe, we are the only sentient life out there with our own god.
    Even evolutionist are self centered/selfish and arrogant to believe we have evolved past natures control. We ignore every bit of natural selection and natural constraints. Hell, we believe we control nature itself with global warming. We believe that women are equal in every way as men, yet we dont see that in any other mammals on Earth. We believe the weak should thrive and the strong be stiffled. We believe that children have an equal say in society as the adaults with wisdom and experience have. We dont believe is punishing the children when they disobey their elders. I think we should be finding true sentient life on Earth before we look anywhere else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hustonj View Post
    Why?

    On our own planet, we have had multiple pantheons of gods, with multiple varieties of rewards (and punishments) in the afterlife.

    Why would anyone assume that aliens would have the same concept of afterlife punishment as their own religion?

    Lack of intelligent thought is not unique to anybody in our society, but it seems to concentrate in certain social groups.
    That's why, in this hypothetical, I'm making an assumption that the God of Abraham is the one God, as it relates to the OP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Measure Man View Post
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    I like the line from the movie Contact when young Ellie asks her father if there are other people on other planets. His reply was "I don't know, Sparks. But I guess I'd say if it is just us... seems like an awful waste of space."

    People like Ken Ham who make comments like he did are really expressing their fears that they could be wrong. Why would "God" create the Earth and other planets in our Solar System as well as the millions of galaxies and stars but only populate the Earth with "his" children? As I said, it's fear on his part because if there are aliens then that means Earth wasn't "specially created" thereby making mankind not so special.

    Ham also contends if aliens go exist then even Jesus can't save them because only descendents of Adam can be saved. Yet, wouldn't the word of "God" through the teachings of Jesus be just as applicable to aliens since "God" also created them. Again, this is about people like Ham trying to make themselves feel they are "special." It's sad that they have so little self-esteem that they have to create a narrative that puts them above all others, both human and alien.

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    If we find "alien" life on other planets, it will be most likely only sentient life...no humans or advanced civilizations as we love to fantasize about. UFO activity, crop circles, abductions, etc are all from inter-dimensional beings, not extra-terrestrial. I highly suspect that they're demons masquerading as our "space brothers", given the fact that everything is done so secretively (i.e. occult). So if someone were to take this question seriously, I would say that it answers itself without any further need for discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MACHINE666 View Post
    If we find "alien" life on other planets, it will be most likely only sentient life...no humans or advanced civilizations as we love to fantasize about. UFO activity, crop circles, abductions, etc are all from inter-dimensional beings, not extra-terrestrial. I highly suspect that they're demons masquerading as our "space brothers", given the fact that everything is done so secretively (i.e. occult). So if someone were to take this question seriously, I would say that it answers itself without any further need for discussion.
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