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    Quote Originally Posted by garhkal View Post
    Saw this on Fox. Apparently there is a big push to host gay pride blood drives, and to repeal the "Sexist" law that prohibits men who have sex with other men from donating blood.

    But i notice in all the years this law has been around, NO one called it sexist, cause it only targeted men?

    http://chicago.gopride.com/news/arti...cleid/59657524

    http://www.fox21news.com/news/story....8#.U8A3ELGk0i0

    http://www.gayblooddrive.com/#!

    http://www.edgeboston.com/index.php?...sc3=&id=161808

    Also, there are many OTHER reasons that preclude someone from giving blood.
    A time restraint (if you gave a few days ago you can't give again. So why not repeal this as it is discriminating against those who want to continually give.
    Restraints against those who were overseas at certain locations during certain times (like the EU during the mad cow crisis) - what about this? Why not repeal that?

    If this law does get repealed, and somehow a Gay person who donated tainted blood gets given to someone else, Who get's sued? The gay person for being allowed to donate it? THe blood bank for improper testing? BOTH?
    The CDC has been following HIV rates among men who have sex with men and the rates are simply unacceptable. The CDC has spent a lot of tax payers money to educate gay men on how to have safe sex but these efforts have not changed the rate of infection among gay men. There is also a small window that HIV infected blood does NOT test positive so this greatly increases the chance of HIV infected blood getting into the blood supply and this is why gay men can not donate blood.

    http://www.cdc.gov/healthyyouth/sexu...sheet_ymsm.pdf

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    As somebody who used to run a monthly 2-day blood-drive . . ..

    The Red Cross restrictions on who not to accept blood from are about three things:

    1) Safety
    2) The Perception of Safety
    3) Cost

    Just like when an insurance company charges a 22 year-old, single male with no driving history a significantly higher insurance rate than they do a 42 year-old, married mother of 4, the decisions are based on historical evidence and statistics.

    The reality of HIV infection rates for the group in question is well documented.

    Quick, accurate blood tests are not cheap enough for the Red Cross to use them for the entire donated supply, and anything else would require redefining the process they use when handling, testing and transferring blood, which would ALSO increase the cost of this donated resource.

    The Red Cross blood donation arm is a huge money sink. The organization does what it can to keep those costs as low as possible while keeping the blood supply as great as possible. Cost/Benefit ratios are hard at work, here.

    Until the cost (including risk) of better HIV testing for every donation is overwhelmed by the benefit of an increase in the available blood supply, there is no viable business reason to spend the extra money. The documented size of the potential donor group being excluded, along with historic donation rates, pretty clearly indicates that there's no risk of the additional donor pool making such a decision viable. Were it otherwise, the Red Cross is ALWAYS too desperate for blood not to have made the change without external pressure.

    It isn't like the Red Cross passes the costs on. They will also allow you to donate a bag which they will throw away, so that you can hide the fact that the screening disqualified you . . .. So they do absorb costs in the interest of providing patient confidentiality. They also are explicit that you should not doante as a way of getting an HIV test.

    ALSO . . ..

    I feel it is important to remind people that Executive Branch regulation is NOT LAW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by garhkal View Post
    Also, giving blood is not a right.
    So, what? No one claimed it was a right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiredretiredE7 View Post
    The CDC has been following HIV rates among men who have sex with men and the rates are simply unacceptable. The CDC has spent a lot of tax payers money to educate gay men on how to have safe sex but these efforts have not changed the rate of infection among gay men. There is also a small window that HIV infected blood does NOT test positive so this greatly increases the chance of HIV infected blood getting into the blood supply and this is why gay men can not donate blood.

    http://www.cdc.gov/healthyyouth/sexu...sheet_ymsm.pdf
    So i take it you are for the ban to stay in place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by garhkal View Post
    So i take it you are for the ban to stay in place?
    I don't care either way, gay men will still donate. I can't donate due to being assigned to a European installation during the "mad cow" outbreak in England. I just wanted to make the actual facts concerning the reason why gay men are not allowed to donate with a credible link from the CDC.

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    Perhaps you should sue for your 'rights being trod on'..

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    At least a massive amount of blood was donated. Hopefully it was all clean, and that's gotta count for something.
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    Anyone heard from this org how many pints they got donated?

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    Quote Originally Posted by garhkal View Post
    Anyone heard from this org how many pints they got donated?
    Don't know, don't care.

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