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    Don't Get Out Of The Military And Become A Lazy Piece Of $#!+

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    When you leave the military, resist the temptation to become a lazy piece of shit, or as I like to call it, an LPOS.

    It’s so easy to do, you may not even realize it’s happening. The civilian world makes you soft, it infects you with that “anything goes” mindset that dangles an easy life right in front of your face. Don’t be fooled. If you’re not careful you’ll wake up one morning as a LPOS.

    And that’s when General Mattis pops out of bushes and knifehands you. I’ve seen it: scary stuff.

    No one wants to be an LPOS. It happens gradually, innocently — you’ll never see it coming. You stop working out, and gain a few pounds. You stop shaving regularly, or grow out a lumberjack beard. Then you discover a love of season-bombing on Netflix or HBO Go. The momentum builds.

    A lot of this is a natural reaction to the systematic retardation that is the United States military. No one should stop you from enjoying your honeymoon period — embrace it. The problem is that you stop doing all the good stuff you learned, too. People value the skills you picked up; don’t discard them like a used condom. Employers want to hire folks who are flexible, show initiative, work well in teams, and all that happy horseshit.

    Those skills matter. Without them you’re nothing. Don’t start thinking like an entitled veteran (more on that later). At that point, buddy, you’re on track to become a LPOS.

    Getting out isn’t easy, we all know that. You may have done it once or twice, but I bet I got you beat. I left the Marine Corps three times: active duty in 2005, then the Individual Ready Reserve after an involuntary recall in 2008, and one last time (for Chesty) in the IRR in 2011. It got to the point where I knew the Transition Assistance Program class material better than the instructor, not that it helped much.

    I did learn some stuff that’s useful, though. Turns out that the transition strategy everyone talks about — the resume you write, the college you go to, the profession you choose — matters a hell of a lot less than the tactics. It’s all about the fundamentals. Put one foot in front of the other.

    This should makes sense to any noncommissioned officers out there. Get the little things right and a lot of the other stuff takes care of itself. Keep the shit that matters wired tight. You can have dust on the outside of your weapon, but the bolt assembly better be clean.

    The military is a structured place. Like all of us, that’s probably part of the reason why you hate it. It’s the same way you think about a girlfriend right when you’re breaking up: All you see is flaws and faults. You just want to be out, to be done.

    “After all,” you might say, “Why shouldn’t people be able to get up at the crack of noon, take a quick hit or sip a beer, and play video games until dinner? That’s what we fought for. That’s the American way.”

    I get it, man. I really do.

    Problem is, the same military habits that you love to complain about also help out a lot once you’re flying solo. Good habits are the equivalent of momentum, they keep you going. Everybody needs some of that, and it’s hard to keep up momentum when there aren’t consequences for your laziness.

    In the civilian world, anything goes. That’s a blessing in some sense: There are no inspections, no one yells at you, you can leave when you don’t want to stand in a line, the list goes on.

    But it can also be a curse. People complain without any good reason, everybody is hella fat, people dress like they just rolled out of bed. Pretty soon you’ll realize the sad truth: America is losing its edge.

    Why? Lots of civilians are LPOSs, and they drag down the rest of us. The civilian sector craps out LPOSs like they were going out style. Don’t become one of them.

    A LPOS doesn’t have a routine. He just slimes through life. You can be sure to find him on the path of least resistance, whether that’s being a C student in community college (or the ever-popular American military universities of the world) or trying to scam a PTSD rating from the VA by researching symptoms online before his claims appointment.

    “That will never be me,” you think, or maybe you straight up mutter “Fuck you, bro — I was a Marine/soldier/whatever.” My response to that is I know a lot of vets who are LPOSs, and they hide behind their service when called out.

    I’m not saying you’re going to be like that, but that’s the flavor of the month for vets. Chances are, you’re pretty entitled — I know I am.

    You think your service makes you a big deal, like there aren’t over two million other people who deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan just like you. You are one of the crowd, so you better start working to stand out.

    Time for some ground truth, brothers and sisters. Civilians don’t care what you did in the military. Not really, anyway. Saying “Thank you for your service” means precisely dick. They aren’t going to give you a job, or do your homework, or take care of your kids. Sack up — life isn’t any easier in the civilian world, it’s just different. You need to take a lot more responsibility for your actions today, and in the future, precisely because there is so much freedom.

    There is also one more thing you should know, but it’s a secret.

    Come closer.

    Are you listening? Good.

    YOU DON’T GET PAID TO BE A CIVILIAN.

    Treseder out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Jones View Post
    Blunt, a bit terse, definitely not political, but not incorrect either.
    "The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first." ~ Thomas Jefferson

    It will be of little avail to the people that the laws are made by men of their own choice if the laws be so voluminous that they cannot be read, or so incoherent that they cannot be understood.
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    I actually envy the people who have the ability to do this... i.e., those who managed to stay single during their stint.

    Admittedly, had I stayed single and only did one term, I'd have likely moved back in with my parents not really giving two shits what I'd be doing for a living.
    "Well... Uber's going to "driverless" cars soon, and their research probably shows that they're a natural fit (when it comes to getting paid for doing nothing)."
    -Rainmaker, referencing black males

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Jones View Post
    I actually envy the people who have the ability to do this... i.e., those who managed to stay single during their stint.

    Admittedly, had I stayed single and only did one term, I'd have likely moved back in with my parents not really giving two shits what I'd be doing for a living.
    I will say, the wife and kids aspect definitely add constraints towards ones choices after transitioning. A big one are the constraints placed on ones ability to relocate. If you've bought a house and have a kid in school it adds stress that could otherwise be avoided. Unfortunately being unable to relocate is a major handicap when the transition does occur. There are some more difficult choices that are made available afterwards about whether to go the austerity route with the potential paycut or play ones hand as a geo-bachelor, or hope to find a way to handle the house and relocation while already under budgetary stressors.
    "The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first." ~ Thomas Jefferson

    It will be of little avail to the people that the laws are made by men of their own choice if the laws be so voluminous that they cannot be read, or so incoherent that they cannot be understood.
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    Very true, hope its not to late for me!

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    I blew up when I got out. I'm 6'0", and I blew up to 285. I got back down to 185; since I stopped driving taxis back in October.
    "Well... Uber's going to "driverless" cars soon, and their research probably shows that they're a natural fit (when it comes to getting paid for doing nothing)."
    -Rainmaker, referencing black males

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    Some good stuff and some bad.

    The good: The truth about the feeling of entitlement that many vets have.

    The bad: The assumption that most of us rely on the structure the military gave us or that the transition is difficult.

    Oh...and life is MUCH easier in the civilian world...just my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandsjames View Post
    The bad: The assumption that most of us rely on the structure the military gave us or that the transition is difficult.
    Let's be fair, there is a statistical backing towards such a statement, veteran unemployment tends to be higher, and for our relative ages we tend to be less savvy on marketing ourselves with a robust resume. This is a generalization that holds certain merit.
    "The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first." ~ Thomas Jefferson

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJBIGJ View Post
    Let's be fair, there is a statistical backing towards such a statement, veteran unemployment tends to be higher, and for our relative ages we tend to be less savvy on marketing ourselves with a robust resume. This is a generalization that holds certain merit.
    My assumption was that he was speaking of the actual transition away from military life, structure, etc...not so much in the employment but in the "running your own life" area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandsjames View Post
    My assumption was that he was speaking of the actual transition away from military life, structure, etc...not so much in the employment but in the "running your own life" area.
    Also based in some modicum of truth, at least there are numbers of examples supporting that assertion, like any generalization it's only true until it's not.
    "The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first." ~ Thomas Jefferson

    It will be of little avail to the people that the laws are made by men of their own choice if the laws be so voluminous that they cannot be read, or so incoherent that they cannot be understood.
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