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    Quote Originally Posted by CORNELIUSSEON View Post
    The reason why I say that the Tea Party is full of Republicans with NO Democrats, is the fact that we have a long-standing name for Conservative Democrats. They are BLUE DOG DEMOCRATS, and they consist, mostly, of the Conservative Democrats that didn't flee to the Republican Party during that party's "Southern Strategy" period. Now, I am sure that some of the Blue Dogs employ "Teaspeak" to remain politically viable, but the use of "Tea-Speak" by Democrats doesn't make one a member of the Tea Party. Being a Republican and employing "Tea-Speak" does for the time being.

    Incidentally, where I live, if we find a person who is registered as a Democrat using "Tea-Speak", that is grounds for being banned from membership in our local Democrat organization.

    Maybe if the Republican organizations practiced that same rule, the Tea Party folk would have to get off the dime and organize their own party as a real Political Party.
    Blue Dog Democrats are nearly extinct. They don't get the support that liberal Democrats get from the national party in elections and have only been able to hang on as long as they have because a good portion of their constituency are conservatives. Blue Dogs would lose in the primaries if they ran in liberal districts, just as Cantor lost in his because his district became more conservative.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/blue-dog-democrats-whittled-down-in-number-are-trying-to-regroup/2014/01/15/37d4e7e2-7dfd-11e3-95c6-0a7aa80874bc_story.html

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    Hey, just say he's right. Bernie Sanders, and admitted Socialist, caucuses with the Democrats. I guess that makes them the same using that line of thinking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absinthe Anecdote View Post
    The point of contention was Corny's claim that McCain parrots "Tea-Speak."

    That is simply an uninformed opinion. McCain is a rather harsh critic of the Tea Party, and they of he.

    If you look at the debt ceiling debates, it is obvious that the Republican Party has not adopted the whole agenda of the Tea Party.

    Plus, need I point you to Congressman Cantor's recent defeat in the primaries to a Tea Party candidate?

    I think you owe Sandsjames an apology.
    You are spot on. There hasn't been a more harsh critic of the Tea Party than McCain. McCain has said things about the Tea Party that Democrats have not even said. McCain is a main cog of the GOP establishment, who, by in large, likes to maintain the status quo. It is no secret that the GOP-E and the Tea Party aren't exactly reading from the same sheet of music. One has to look no further than the Republican primaries to see they do not like each other and the Tea Party's goal is to knock-off as many GOP-E'rs as they can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandsjames View Post
    Not at all...the Republicans and the Tea Party are two different parties.
    That hold primaries together.
    That both get a "R" after their name.
    That are both referred to as "Republicans"
    That both attend the Republican Convention

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    Quote Originally Posted by garhkal View Post
    Do we wait for a rape victim to get physically and mentally sound before investigating the crime and going to trial? So why should we wait here?
    The comparison is not apt. in this case, we are deciding if he is a pure victim, or if he contributed to his victim status through criminal activity or negligence.

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