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    Property/school taxes.. Hating on the single folk?

    Why is it, that if a single person (or married folk who don't have kids) have to pay for schools via property taxes/school levies etc, while someone who DOES have kids, but rents does not have to pay for the services that those schools provide?
    Its almost to me like society is saying to single folk "Rent or you will be paying for other people's kids!

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    You aren't suggesting that the land lord isn't including the escrow costs into the amount the house is rented for are you? But I do agree with you on the premiss that you are going with. Because of Taxes and government handouts, the price for basic services that most people should be able to afford is to expensive. Schooling for your own kids should be easy if you aren't paying property taxes. I spent $10k (1/3 of my income) for daycare last year for 2 kids, and could still spend more if I wanted to. Its about priorities. Making sure my kids have the best education/care is more important to me than a massive truck or the best new cell phone or big TV or video games or clothes. And I am a single father with no government help or help from their mother.
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    Re: Property/school taxes.. Hating on the single folk?

    Quote Originally Posted by garhkal View Post
    Why is it, that if a single person (or married folk who don't have kids) have to pay for schools via property taxes/school levies etc, while someone who DOES have kids, but rents does not have to pay for the services that those schools provide?
    Its almost to me like society is saying to single folk "Rent or you will be paying for other people's kids!
    It's annoying. I've got no kids, but my property taxes are extremely high because of the school tax. Renters aren't paying any taxes related to their rent. Maybe WillsPowers was on to something.

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    Re: Property/school taxes.. Hating on the single folk?

    Quote Originally Posted by sandsjames View Post
    It's annoying. I've got no kids, but my property taxes are extremely high because of the school tax. Renters aren't paying any taxes related to their rent. Maybe WillsPowers was on to something.
    Your property taxes pay for more than schools and the concept of free public education mandates a shared burden. Otherwise it's private school for everyone and therefore no school for some (like in past history).

    Renters do pay indirectly since the property owner pays the property tax and passes that on via rent.
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    Re: Property/school taxes.. Hating on the single folk?

    Quote Originally Posted by TJMAC77SP View Post
    Your property taxes pay for more than schools and the concept of free public education mandates a shared burden. Otherwise it's private school for everyone and therefore no school for some (like in past history).

    Renters do pay indirectly since the property owner pays the property tax and passes that on via rent.
    But that's the issue i am seeing problems with. Why SHOULD there be a 'shared' burden? Why should those who don't use service XYZ (schools and child services in this case) be required to pony up to cover those who DO use it?

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    Re: Property/school taxes.. Hating on the single folk?

    Quote Originally Posted by TJMAC77SP View Post
    Your property taxes pay for more than schools and the concept of free public education mandates a shared burden. Otherwise it's private school for everyone and therefore no school for some (like in past history).

    Renters do pay indirectly since the property owner pays the property tax and passes that on via rent.
    My school tax that I pay in Texas does not pay for more than just schools. The other property taxes go to the county, etc, but the school tax is very specific.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garhkal View Post
    But that's the issue i am seeing problems with. Why SHOULD there be a 'shared' burden? Why should those who don't use service XYZ (schools and child services in this case) be required to pony up to cover those who DO use it?
    Especially in States where so much lottery money is supposed to go to the schools. I have no problem with part of my income tax going to schools, but the property tax really bugs me.

    Though, I suppose that if I look at it as more revenue for the school increases the quality of the school/education then, in turn, the area should be more educated, meaning higher employment rates...in turn, increasing my property value. Of course, that's only in theory. I'm sure most of it, especially in Texas, goes to the football program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garhkal View Post
    But that's the issue i am seeing problems with. Why SHOULD there be a 'shared' burden? Why should those who don't use service XYZ (schools and child services in this case) be required to pony up to cover those who DO use it?
    Why should those who don't drive on certain highways or city roads be required to pony up to cover those who DO use it?

    I'm single, a homeowner, and I pay property taxes and it doesn't bother me that some of my taxes goes to schools. There are kinds of common services property taxpayers help to support the community. These are the "commons" that all citizens contribute towards the good of the community. The "commons" include things like police and fire services, roads, sewers, water, etc. and it's not only the property owners that pay it's also the renters who pay the taxes through their rent.

    Just because you don't use or benefit from a public service doesn't mean you shouldn't contribute to the good of the community. There are services in my city I don't use but it doesn't bother me that other citizens are using them because those services are beneficial to the community. We have a city pool as well as a recreation/gym center and I don't use them but they are partially paid for with my property taxes. They provide a service to the rest of the citizens by giving them an area to exercise and improve their health. As for schools, they educate the children who will be the shopkeepers, dentists, doctors, construction workers, truck drivers, etc. in the coming years so I don't mind it if my property taxes helps to pay for their education.

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    Re: Property/school taxes.. Hating on the single folk?

    Quote Originally Posted by LogDog_guest View Post
    Why should those who don't drive on certain highways or city roads be required to pony up to cover those who DO use it?

    I'm single, a homeowner, and I pay property taxes and it doesn't bother me that some of my taxes goes to schools. There are kinds of common services property taxpayers help to support the community. These are the "commons" that all citizens contribute towards the good of the community. The "commons" include things like police and fire services, roads, sewers, water, etc. and it's not only the property owners that pay it's also the renters who pay the taxes through their rent.

    Just because you don't use or benefit from a public service doesn't mean you shouldn't contribute to the good of the community. There are services in my city I don't use but it doesn't bother me that other citizens are using them because those services are beneficial to the community. We have a city pool as well as a recreation/gym center and I don't use them but they are partially paid for with my property taxes. They provide a service to the rest of the citizens by giving them an area to exercise and improve their health. As for schools, they educate the children who will be the shopkeepers, dentists, doctors, construction workers, truck drivers, etc. in the coming years so I don't mind it if my property taxes helps to pay for their education.
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    Re: Property/school taxes.. Hating on the single folk?

    Quote Originally Posted by Absinthe Anecdote View Post
    I with you, I think we should throw away all the cars and bombs in the world, and then, go to a park and sit on blankets drinking red wine and eating goat cheese while reciting poetry to each other.

    Can you dig it?
    I don't drink alcohol, eat goat cheese, nor do I recite poetry unless it's a ribald limerick.

    Also, don't you think if we did that someone would complain about their property taxes going to pay for a park that they never use?

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