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    there's no way they are getting rid of 18k, or however many that maxtrix adds up to, this year. Less people died at Normandy for christ's sake. So what's the real story here people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ihatenonners View Post
    there's no way they are getting rid of 18k, or however many that maxtrix adds up to, this year. Less people died at Normandy for christ's sake. So what's the real story here people?
    Regardless of the facts or the rumors, AF will adjust the numbers and percentages to meet it's 5 year goal... it won't have anything to do with the members druthers! Witness the muddy waters mother AF has provided as "guidelines".

    We are coming up on a post-war drawdown that has not been seen since the post-Vietnam era. Most of the impetus is economic (read MIC) and highly political.

    Even hard-core militarists in the political pot have failed to come to the defense of active duty and retired alike in the areas of proposed pay, Tricare, TA and other benefit cuts. Witness the shameful defense of recent monetary reductions by retired Flag Officers and previously supportive members of Congress (as if they would have any insight into the plight of regular line officers and enlisted).

    The funds to perpetuate the acquisition of perpetually underfunded/underperforming/over budget airsheens and other service cosmic do-dads and resultant continuing of a robust MIC is the single most burdensome part of the military budget but the single most politically necessary to sustain. Ergo, manpower loses to air/thing power. DOD will differ with this and quote the unsustainable manpower/retirement and Tricare costs as the nexus of the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefB View Post
    Regardless of the facts or the rumors, AF will adjust the numbers and percentages to meet it's 5 year goal... it won't have anything to do with the members druthers! Witness the muddy waters mother AF has provided as "guidelines".

    We are coming up on a post-war drawdown that has not been seen since the post-Vietnam era. Most of the impetus is economic (read MIC) and highly political.

    Even hard-core militarists in the political pot have failed to come to the defense of active duty and retired alike in the areas of proposed pay, Tricare, TA and other benefit cuts. Witness the shameful defense of recent monetary reductions by retired Flag Officers and previously supportive members of Congress (as if they would have any insight into the plight of regular line officers and enlisted).

    The funds to perpetuate the acquisition of perpetually underfunded/underperforming/over budget airsheens and other service cosmic do-dads and resultant continuing of a robust MIC is the single most burdensome part of the military budget but the single most politically necessary to sustain. Ergo, manpower loses to air/thing power. DOD will differ with this and quote the unsustainable manpower/retirement and Tricare costs as the nexus of the problem.

    Ever it was so after all wars.
    You are spot-on with many points here ChiefB. The "Force-Whatever Matrix" sounds like something that works good for a room full of engineers, but needs to be "plain Farmer Brown English" when released to the people whose lives are affected. Releasing goobledy-gook makes the releasers feel smarter since no one else can figure out the crap.

    As for the retired GOs: I hear "I got mine, screw you!" every time they talk.

    Maybe if "cosmic do-dad cost overruns" were programmatically identified in the budget (pie chart??) the powers that be would get slapped every time they spout "PERSONNEL COSTS!! BLAH!!!" since there won't be anyone left to run the cosmic do-dads otherwise. Plus if they were serious about personnel costs, they'd close a few bases.

    If this site had rep points, you'd get +10 for "cosmic do-dads".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo432 View Post
    You are spot-on with many points here ChiefB. The "Force-Whatever Matrix" sounds like something that works good for a room full of engineers, but needs to be "plain Farmer Brown English" when released to the people whose lives are affected. Releasing goobledy-gook makes the releasers feel smarter since no one else can figure out the crap.

    As for the retired GOs: I hear "I got mine, screw you!" every time they talk.

    Maybe if "cosmic do-dad cost overruns" were programmatically identified in the budget (pie chart??) the powers that be would get slapped every time they spout "PERSONNEL COSTS!! BLAH!!!" since there won't be anyone left to run the cosmic do-dads otherwise. Plus if they were serious about personnel costs, they'd close a few bases.

    If this site had rep points, you'd get +10 for "cosmic do-dads".

    Sounds like they are still going to use smoke and mirrors, except maybe on this drawdown a lot more people are going to get screwed.

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    Yea only military times can post bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juggs View Post
    Yea only military times can post bullshit.
    I was going to post something about that ridiculous "Coin Knife" that they have been advertising on their website for the last several years.

    As a matter of fact, if you want a great selector to identify people to be separated from the military it should be anyone who orders a "Coin Knife."

    We can't afford to have people that are that dumb in the service anymore.

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    Good thing I read all of it before it was deleted...

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