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    Rainmaker needs to chill out with a snifter of cognac and stop getting spun up over gay folks.

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    Mitch repied to the accusations;

    "Nowhere in my act do I talk about forcing a girl to give me oral sex or getting rid of evidence of this assault,” Fatel wrote on his website. “I do a joke where my wife tells me she loves giving oral sex and so I childishly can’t wait and encourage her to go ahead. It begs reality to misconstrue this as ‘assault."

    “What I think Col. Ciero fails to realize is that these men and women in our military are very, very smart, intelligent people who understand and — just by the fact that they’re in the military — want to do good in their lives. If anybody, without Col. Ciero telling them, felt that in some way I was advocating the misuse of power against a woman, I could tell you I would have been booed off the stage immediately.”

    When he jokes about spiking his wife’s drink so that they can have sex on their first date, Fatel expects the audience to understand that his wife would not have married him had he actually drugged her. Adults should be trusted to realize that a joke is silly, not real.

    “It scares me to think that these people, who we are entrusting with our lives, we really don’t think that they’ll be able to discern that that’s not OK, that that’s a joke,” Fatel said. “I defy anyone to tell a joke where in some way you don’t laugh at it because it sounds so absurd or so stupid.”


    Some Capt says

    "“The current contracts dictate entertainment shall be wholesome and adhere to the standards of good taste. Specifically, the rules prohibit offensive material regarding race, religion, national origin, sex, military rank, military service, or disability.”

    http://www.airforcetimes.com/article...s-review-shows
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    I think the Colonel is being a little hard on himself.

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    Air Force reviewing booking policy after complaints about comedian

    By Adam L. Mathis
    Stars and Stripes
    Published: August 16, 2013


    RAF MILDENHALL, England — A comedian’s on-base performance at RAF Lakenheath, in which he joked about spiking a woman’s drink to obtain sex, has prompted Air Force officials to review procedures regarding entertainment provided to troops.

    Comedian Mitch Fatel’s act last weekend in England caught the attention of Air Force officials, including Col. Mark K. Ciero, the 48th Wing vice commander, who was in the audience for the Aug. 10 performance.
    In a commentary posted on the RAF Lakenheath website, Ciero described Fatel’s act as “crude.”

    At the start of the routine, the comedian came close, but did not cross the line on being overly inappropriate, Ciero wrote.
    But, then Fatel “insulted women’s anatomies, added a punch line about spiking drinks to facilitate sex, described repeatedly removing undergarments while whispering ‘she was asleep,’ ” Ciero wrote in his commentary. “Then in his coup de grace, demonstrated how to physically push a lady into oral sex and remove the evidence. The headliner hit the line obliquely, kept assaulting, and crossed headstrong.”


    The performance comes at a time when the U.S. military is reeling from a number of sex assault scandals that have prompted top military and civilian leadership to stress a zero-tolerance policy toward such incidents.
    Recently, the Air Force came out with a tough new policy that says airmen who commit any type of sexual misconduct, whether groping a co-worker or rape, face dismissal from the service.
    The Pentagon says there were more than 3,000 cases of sexual assault reported in the military last year and almost 800 of those were in the Air Force.

    Additionally, Gen. Mark Welsh III, Air Force chief of staff, has repeatedly called on all airmen to help stop sexual assault in the service.
    “Everybody in our Air Force needs to think that way and every commander, every supervisor who isn’t actively engaged in being part of the solution of this is part of the problem,” Welsh said just prior to taking over his post in August 2012.

    In his commentary on the Lakenheath website, Ciero criticized his own lack of action during the show, calling it an example of what airmen should not do.
    “I left the show. I could have taken charge, upheld the line of our new military culture of professionalism and respect, and interrupted the comedian,” Ciero wrote. “As Airmen and leaders, we are taught to intervene ... On all accounts, I failed to stand up and take the sword from the attacker, the microphone from the comedian. Instead, I departed and reported.“For those I left behind in the Liberty Club still under assault by the headliner, sorry. No airman, no human, deserves the depravity shrouded in comedy associated with our military,” he said.


    In a telephone interview Friday, Ciero said his commander and officials at 3rd Air Force and U.S. Air Forces in Europe were aware of the issues with the performance. He said he was told “that we’re going to go back and re-evaluate the processes and procedures we put in place to make sure that entertainers follow the guidelines that they’re given.”
    Fatel’s tour schedule on the Armed Forces Entertainment website shows he visited bases in Germany and England before ending at Lakenheath. An official with USAFE said complaints were lodged after an earlier performance at RAF Croughton, England.

    Attempts to reach Fatel’s media agent and representatives of Armed Forces Entertainment, which booked the act, were unsuccessful before deadline Friday
    Ciero is an embarrassment to everyone in uniform who knows it's just a fucking joke!!! Mr Wing King needs to do the typical Air Farts over-reaction by banning any and all material which carries an "R" or an "Unrated" icon on all DVDs and Blu-Rays, and demand that all 48 FW report immediately to their UHMs for iPad/iPod screening. Any inappropriate material will be confiscated, and Article 15s will be handed out for violating Article 134 to those offenders, regardless of who they are. Base Chapel activities will become the NEW focus of all Lakenheath personnel, to include mandatory Friday ice cream socials, hymn sing-alongs, sock-hops, and bobbing for apples. By golly, we can't have anyone joke about lady-parts or people sticking their wee-wees in no-no places!


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    So...Base comedy shows from now on:

    Comedian: "So...a guy walks into a bar,"

    Lt Col: "HEY! YOU'RE PROMOTING ALCOHOL ABUSE!! STOP IT!!"

    Comedian: "O..K.. Sorry...um...So a preist and a rabbi are playing chess, "

    Lt Col: "HEY! STOP PUSHING YOUR RELIGIOUS IDEALS ON US!!"

    Comedian: "Um...So...I have this friend, and his wife is..."

    Lt Col: "HEY! QUIT EXCLUDING HOMOSEXUALS!"

    Comedian: "Sheesh...um...Why did the chicken..."

    Lt Col: "HEY! SOME PEOPLE HERE ARE VEGETARIANS! STOP PUSHING YOUR POULTRY ON EVERYONE!"

    Comedian: "I'm done."

    Lt Col: "EVERYONE! I'M SORRY YOU WERE EXPOSED TO THAT VILE, HATE-FILLED, PERFORMANCE! FOLLOW ME TO THE IG TO COMPLAIN! RUN!"

    :unsure:

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    Ciero is an embarrassment to everyone in uniform who knows it's just a fucking joke!!! Mr Wing King needs to do the typical Air Farts over-reaction by banning any and all material which carries an "R" or an "Unrated" icon on all DVDs and Blu-Rays, and demand that all 48 FW report immediately to their UHMs for iPad/iPod screening. Any inappropriate material will be confiscated, and Article 15s will be handed out for violating Article 134 to those offenders, regardless of who they are. Base Chapel activities will become the NEW focus of all Lakenheath personnel, to include mandatory Friday ice cream socials, hymn sing-alongs, sock-hops, and bobbing for apples. By golly, we can't have anyone joke about lady-parts or people sticking their wee-wees in no-no places!


    Guess ol' Mark is bucking REAL hard for that star. He's even willing to throw away his self-respect for it. He's likely already lost the respect of many in his unit and at his base.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kicker47 View Post
    So...Base comedy shows from now on:

    Comedian: "So...a guy walks into a bar,"

    Lt Col: "HEY! YOU'RE PROMOTING ALCOHOL ABUSE!! STOP IT!!"

    Comedian: "O..K.. Sorry...um...So a preist and a rabbi are playing chess, "

    Lt Col: "HEY! STOP PUSHING YOUR RELIGIOUS IDEALS ON US!!"

    Comedian: "Um...So...I have this friend, and his wife is..."

    Lt Col: "HEY! QUIT EXCLUDING HOMOSEXUALS!"

    Comedian: "Sheesh...um...Why did the chicken..."

    Lt Col: "HEY! SOME PEOPLE HERE ARE VEGETARIANS! STOP PUSHING YOUR POULTRY ON EVERYONE!"

    Comedian: "I'm done."

    Lt Col: "EVERYONE! I'M SORRY YOU WERE EXPOSED TO THAT VILE, HATE-FILLED, PERFORMANCE! FOLLOW ME TO THE IG TO COMPLAIN! RUN!"

    :unsure:
    Should have made the O-5 an O-6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OtisRNeedleman View Post
    Should have made the O-5 an O-6.
    I envisioned the situation with an O-5 desperate to make O-6...

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    Isn't it interesting how the OP refers to "complaints" yet as far as I can tell only one person got their panties in a twist...
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    Re: Air Force reviewing booking policy after complaints about comedian

    Quote Originally Posted by Measure Man View Post
    Knock, knock

    Who's there?

    Queen.

    Queen who?

    Queen my dishes please.

    It's "Queen" to make it funny.
    That is an awesome joke because queens don’t typically wash dishes unless they are the Freddy Mercury type queens and then it depends on if they are rich fussy type queens who employ house keepers named Consuela or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Measure Man View Post
    Knock, knock

    Who's there?

    Queen.

    Queen who?

    Queen my dishes please.

    It's "Queen" to make it funny.
    My kids love that commercial! I read online a while back that the questions by the adult in that series of commercials are scripted but the kids' responses are all original & unscripted.

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