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    Females Fail again

    I just saw that they had two more women fail again in completing the Infantry Officer course. I personally don't know why the Marine Corps keeps investing time and money into this. I don't think there will be anyone to fully complete the course when held to the same standard as men.

    Any thoughts on this?

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    Yea, how many men failed?
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    It's like posting how many women failed PJ school or BUD/s and not posting how many men failed. There is a huge washout rate, and those females would have plenty of company.

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    Re: Females Fail again

    Quote Originally Posted by CYBERFX1024 View Post
    I just saw that they had two more women fail again in completing the Infantry Officer course. I personally don't know why the Marine Corps keeps investing time and money into this. I don't think there will be anyone to fully complete the course when held to the same standard as men.

    Any thoughts on this?
    If no one can pass, apparently the standard is too high...
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    pullinteeth, the women Marines were allowed to enter the course knowing that there would be no gender norming. It's hard enough to become an infantry officer in the Corps. If the course were to be gender normed, we'd be adding not only women, but softer type males, that if they couldn't handle the course, why does anyone think that they can haul the gear that the infantry has to do? It's tough for a reason. If an officer can't hack the training, then the Corps has no place place for any of them, male or female who can't complete the course, in the infantry. The Corps carries very heavy packs, up to 140 pounds, plus ammo for them and for the smaw gunners. Add in the bdus, the combat helmet, the canteens, medical first aid kits, entrenching tools, gas masks, plus the weapon. And other stuff.

    It's tough enough being a Marine, without having to carry some non hackers gear also.

    So, it's either pass, or fail, and get some other job. It's as simple as that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocBones View Post
    pullinteeth, the women Marines were allowed to enter the course knowing that there would be no gender norming. It's hard enough to become an infantry officer in the Corps. If the course were to be gender normed, we'd be adding not only women, but softer type males, that if they couldn't handle the course, why does anyone think that they can haul the gear that the infantry has to do? It's tough for a reason. If an officer can't hack the training, then the Corps has no place place for any of them, male or female who can't complete the course, in the infantry. The Corps carries very heavy packs, up to 140 pounds, plus ammo for them and for the smaw gunners. Add in the bdus, the combat helmet, the canteens, medical first aid kits, entrenching tools, gas masks, plus the weapon. And other stuff.

    It's tough enough being a Marine, without having to carry some non hackers gear also.

    So, it's either pass, or fail, and get some other job. It's as simple as that.
    I get that...he didn't say no FEMALES could pass...he said no one could pass.... Having a standard that is unatainable by ANYONE seems pretty stupid to me...
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    :cry Or issue 'em some pack mules or sled dogs...:lock1

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    Does the failure of women bring joy to anyone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quixotic View Post
    Yea, how many men failed?
    As compared to the number of men who passed? You tell me. I'll tell you this much though; *percentages* in this case, viewed alongside their respective raw numbers, will paint a far more accurate picture than wandering astray with just raw numbers alone.
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