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    Re: Pride and Patriotism ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert F. Dorr View Post
    Generous?

    My number is from a survey that was limited to American-born, native speakers of American English. The study ruled out immigrants because many are literate in other languages. The study concluded that about 25 percent of adult Americans have significant difficulty reading, understanding, and acting upon a moderately complex sentence in the English language.

    Want proof? Just Google "Military Times Forums." You'll be astonished at how much difficulty people have with spelling, punctuation, grammar and clarity. And these mofos are part of the 75 percent. Some of them even have copies of "MISSION TO TOKYO." As an author of books, magazines and newspaper columns I've been forced in recent years to explain terms that anyone would have understood earlier and to dumb down my texts for the median American adult of today.
    Luckily, though, the large majority of those you refer to as "illiterate" are able to use Google in order to find information necessary to them.

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    I honestly believe the downgrade has come from Americans allowing the minoirity to change our culture. One kid is offended by prayer in school... one kid is offended by the pledge of allegiance... we all know it was the parents pushing thier own progressive agendas onto the children. And we allowed it, some even encouraged it. Very sad.

    I know many here disagree with the religion part, and thats fine. In my own mind I was just demonstrating at how we keep chipping away at what we had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve45213 View Post
    I think we, as a nation, have lost our sense of shame and accountability for our actions. To the rest of the world we look like insufferable spoiled rich kids. Conduct that at one time made you the object of ridicule and the butt of jokes now gets you your own TV show.


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    VERY well said!!

    And yet the rest of the world still looks to us as the first one for handouts. Our entitlement programs are broke internally, we can't even wrap ourselves around our own failures. We cant wait to give away money to keep our "status" in the worlds eye. Spend the money we give away here! Anything left over we will help.


    Screw them in the goat arse, focus on what matters. If something flares up we will handle it. Lets quit giving money out and see who our true friends are. Put the rest to internal security by 50ft fences all along our borders.

    Lets fix our problems on our own first then maybe help others.


    There is a reason the dollar is the base for world currency lets act like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 20+Years View Post
    I honestly believe the downgrade has come from Americans allowing the minoirity to change our culture. One kid is offended by prayer in school... one kid is offended by the pledge of allegiance... we all know it was the parents pushing thier own progressive agendas onto the children. And we allowed it, some even encouraged it. Very sad.

    I know many here disagree with the religion part, and thats fine. In my own mind I was just demonstrating at how we keep chipping away at what we had.
    Our Republican system is all about preventing the tyranny of the majority. The "under god" phrase was not in the original pledge of allegiance... it was pushed by evangelical fanatics after WWII who were scared of American children becoming socialists.

    I say we embrace our progressive roots as an ever-changing and adapting country... not held back by fear and ideology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Bonham View Post
    Our Republican system is all about preventing the tyranny of the majority. The "under god" phrase was not in the original pledge of allegiance... it was pushed by evangelical fanatics after WWII who were scared of American children becoming socialists.

    I say we embrace our progressive roots as an ever-changing and adapting country... not held back by fear and ideology.
    Can't you respond to what he ACTUALLY said instead of focusing only on the military reference that he stated was only being used as an example? I'll explain it to you.

    He was pointing out that Americans are getting dumber because we are forced to dumb things down so as not to offend anyone. Can you comment on this point? Or are you just going to continue to make your irrelevant redundant points?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandsjames View Post
    Can't you respond to what he ACTUALLY said instead of focusing only on the military reference that he stated was only being used as an example? I'll explain it to you.

    He was pointing out that Americans are getting dumber because we are forced to dumb things down so as not to offend anyone. Can you comment on this point? Or are you just going to continue to make your irrelevant redundant points?
    Are you on drugs? Where did I even mention the military in my post? Where in that post I quoted did he even have the word "dumb"?

    If anything, taking prayer and religious doctrination out of school makes us smarter, not dumber. The only reason you all want religion in school is because you happen to be the majority. I'll bet my next paycheck that if you became the minority religion - and Muslims or Hindus became the majority, you would be A LOT less excited about reading religious text and leading students in prayer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve45213 View Post
    I think we, as a nation, have lost our sense of shame and accountability for our actions. To the rest of the world we look like insufferable spoiled rich kids. Conduct that at one time made you the object of ridicule and the butt of jokes now gets you your own TV show.


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    Part of that falls on the lawyers and congress for turning our country into IMO a cesspool for PCism, part of that falls on society for allowing it to happen and in some ways Demanding it to happen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chief Bosun View Post
    Also, we lost sight of what President Kennedy said about not asking what the country can do for you, but what you can do for your country. Too many seem to think they are owed a job that they like in a place where they want to live instead of realizing that you have to take what you get and do what it takes to earn the job you think you want and to afford a home in the place you think you want to live.
    Its also imo partially the fact we have so much technology now days giving us Instant access to damn near anything we want, people feel they are entitled to everything else NOW NOW NOW!.. people have lost patience and the willingness to EARN it.

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    So remind me again why requiring public leaders, teachers, law enforcement, etc - to exercise common sense when dealing with other cultures and groups is a bad thing?

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    Na// besides religion/state, there is also the segregation of tobacco users that seems acceptable.

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