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    Re: Dept. of Agriculture: "Food Stamps make America Stronger"

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    Definitely a Berkley-eske move. Must be in a PhD program there. PhD in this instance meaning Piled higher and Deeper.
    Sometimes confused with a "Playa Hater Degree"

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    Re: Dept. of Agriculture: "Food Stamps make America Stronger"

    Quote Originally Posted by TJMAC77SP View Post
    So, is your assertion that the reduction in beds is from the federally required paperwork?
    Besides local, there's county, state, and federal paperwork. Redundancy at its finest!

    Granted, the person requiring detox will be housed for a period of time, it's the additional cost of administrative tasks, and communication issues between the parties involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    At one time, there was over two hundred beds available for those in need of detoxification from alcohol and drug abuse in northeastern Ohio. This was about a decade ago. Since that time there has been federal grant money that the Alcohol Drug Abuse and Mental Health Services of Cuyahoga County has utilized to cover the cost of those who are unable to afford their own detox. But since the feds have supplied monies, they have also required x-amount of paperwork. As of this day, there now fourty-four beds between three facilities for the detoxification of substance abuse.

    Each new intake (prospective client) that is welcomed in, and after seeing the on-duty nurse, spends approximately a half an hour to forty-five minutes going through twenty-seven forms to "John Hancock" before that new individual is able to begin the process of detox.
    Without being too familiar with the situation - I would suggest it probably has more to do with increased cost of living, and a much weaker economy. I know a lot of shelters on the west coast started charging fees or closing down altogether in recent years.


    Which is very interesting, because a lot of people were claiming that tax cuts would give rich people more money to donate... which somehow never materialized when it was actually needed.
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    That is correct. He threw a fit yesterday after I asked a question because I truly didnt know. Then went on a rant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Bonham View Post
    Which is very interesting, because a lot of people were claiming that tax cuts would give rich people more money to donate... which somehow never materialized when it was actually needed.
    Actually charitable giving rose in the years 2003-2007, dipped slightly in 2008 and has now reached about where it started in 2001.

    It tends to rise and fall with the economy and personal income.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TJMAC77SP View Post
    Actually charitable giving rose in the years 2003-2007, dipped slightly in 2008 and has now reached about where it started in 2001.

    It tends to rise and fall with the economy and personal income.
    Oh cool... you mean kinda like what I just said:

    "I would suggest it probably has more to do with increased cost of living, and a much weaker economy."

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    Re: Dept. of Agriculture: "Food Stamps make America Stronger"

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Bonham View Post
    Oh cool... you mean kinda like what I just said:

    "I would suggest it probably has more to do with increased cost of living, and a much weaker economy."
    Except that as usual you threw in a little barb at the 'tax decrease crowd'............didn't think that would slip by did ya'?

    The rest of your post...........

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Bonham View Post
    ....Which is very interesting, because a lot of people were claiming that tax cuts would give rich people more money to donate... which somehow never materialized when it was actually needed.
    And.........charitable giving did 'materialize' so your statement was incorrect (which was my point)

    BTW: Wouldn't the reduction in beds be a result of ‘the government’?

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    ………….There probably are a lot more homeless people - due to most of the government funded mental institutions being shut down. ……
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    Re: Dept. of Agriculture: "Food Stamps make America Stronger"

    Quote Originally Posted by TJMAC77SP View Post
    Except that as usual you threw in a little barb at the 'tax decrease crowd'............didn't think that would slip by did ya'?

    The rest of your post...........



    And.........charitable giving did 'materialize' so your statement was incorrect (which was my point)

    BTW: Wouldn't the reduction in beds be a result of ‘the government’?
    You forgot the rest of my post:

    which somehow never materialized when it was actually needed.

    Isn't there some torture porn you should be watching right now?

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    Re: Dept. of Agriculture: "Food Stamps make America Stronger"

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Bonham View Post
    You forgot the rest of my post:

    which somehow never materialized when it was actually needed.

    Isn't there some torture porn you should be watching right now?
    Oh, I see. So I was completely off base and your post wasn't intended at another stick in the eye to the GOP?

    Torture porn....interesting. I assume you have watched some because I have never heard of that particular genre.
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