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    Re: “7 things that must be at the top of Hagel's 'to do' list”

    I think this SECDEF is going to be one of the best we've ever had in that office.

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    Re: “7 things that must be at the top of Hagel's 'to do' list”

    Quote Originally Posted by F4CrewChick View Post
    Mindless pentagon spending designed only to enrich DoD contractors and guarantee jobs for retiring brass. I think there should be a 5 year moratorium on retiring military joining defense firms with government contracts. Pentagon spending is THE MOST WASTEFUL of all governmental spending. Chuck Hagel needs to be the tough boss, start shaking the tree, until a shitload of flag officers fall out.
    Yes on all of that except instead of five years make it a lifetime ban.

    In the distant past this would have been self-policing: Any self-respecting officer of the Marshall, Arnold and Eisenhower era would have thought it beneath contempt to accept a job with a company that makes planes and equipment for the military.

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    Re: “7 things that must be at the top of Hagel's 'to do' list”

    Quote Originally Posted by BURAWSKI View Post
    I think this SECDEF is going to be one of the best we've ever had in that office.
    I haven't formed an opinion so I'm curious to know why you think this.

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    Lightbulb Re: “7 things that must be at the top of Hagel's 'to do' list”

    Be atypically, comprehensive with DoD cost saving changes.

    Integrate military assets better; neutralize internal “turf” wars for funding or glory.

    Stop role duplication. Old traditions die hard, but US can’t afford status quo any more.

    Abolish all five U.S. Service academies. Next BRAC list be comprised solely of all five service academies with an all or none proviso. Expand OTS/OCS and ROTC to fill the gap.

    Active duty forces should all be light and lean expeditionary or rapid deployment forces only. Energize and amplify “forward operating site” and "cooperative security location" wisdom.

    Shift all “heavy” (armor, artillery, bombers) units across DoD exclusively into reserve components only to spin up, as needed. Revisit prepositioning and global “lily pad” concept exploiting better coordinated reserve call ups.

    Consolidate major roles into only one service stopping redundant like units. All armor and artillery operated solely by Army Reserve not also provided by USMC Reserves.

    Fund one land-based “Air Force”, one carrier-based naval “aviation force”. Army and USMC should not also be in the rotary-wing and fixed-wing aircraft or any air component business.

    Develop SOCOM propensity to better deploy MARSOC and other service special operations capability for more specific forte roles that do not negatively vie for prestige or funding.

    Rein all DoD R & D and acquisition aspects into a single streamlined system.

    Stop trying to slyly nickel and dime away military entitlements from current or former members, just get all planned changes upfront to implement fully starting FY 2017 on all those you have not yet entered into All Volunteer Service so they know what the true score is from day one. Stab from the front, not back!

    Until “new” contracts take force, grandfather all those “medical, dental, pay for life served in good faith veterans” in the system already to retain what was promised directly or indirectly.

    Give those enrolled in ROTC or service academies options to bail out now if so inclined before any all inclusive entitlement reduction forced acclimatization hits. All changes must fairly only occur before any service obligation begins not after.

    Convert all the military positions you want into civilians and contractors except mandate that all future DoD civilians and government contractors must be equally deployable as a condition of employment to be fit and ready to go where duty calls to support mission or war fighters otherwise just keep uniformed members doing their jobs both in garrison and at the less cozy sharp end.
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    Re: “7 things that must be at the top of Hagel's 'to do' list”

    Quote Originally Posted by MajesticThunder View Post
    Be atypically, comprehensive with DoD cost saving changes.

    Integrate military assets better; neutralize internal “turf” wars for funding or glory.

    Stop role duplication. Old traditions die hard, but US can’t afford status quo any more.

    Abolish all five U.S. Service academies. Next BRAC list be comprised solely of all five service academies with an all or none proviso. Expand OTS/OCS and ROTC to fill the gap.

    Active duty forces should all be light and lean expeditionary or rapid deployment forces only. Energize and amplify “forward operating site” and "cooperative security location" wisdom.

    Shift all “heavy” (armor, artillery, bombers) units across DoD exclusively into reserve components only to spin up, as needed. Revisit prepositioning and global “lily pad” concept exploiting better coordinated reserve call ups.

    Consolidate major roles into only one service stopping redundant like units. All armor and artillery operated solely by Army Reserve not also provided by USMC Reserves.

    Fund one land-based “Air Force”, one carrier-based naval “aviation force”. Army and USMC should not also be in the rotary-wing and fixed-wing aircraft or any air component business.

    Develop SOCOM propensity to better deploy MARSOC and other service special operations capability for more specific forte roles that do not negatively vie for prestige or funding.

    Rein all DoD R & D and acquisition aspects into a single streamlined system.

    Stop trying to slyly nickel and dime away military entitlements from current or former members, just get all planned changes upfront to implement fully starting FY 2017 on all those you have not yet entered into All Volunteer Service so they know what the true score is from day one. Stab from the front, not back!

    Until “new” contracts take force, grandfather all those “medical, dental, pay for life served in good faith veterans” in the system already to retain what was promised directly or indirectly.

    Give those enrolled in ROTC or service academies options to bail out now if so inclined before any all inclusive entitlement reduction forced acclimatization hits. All changes must fairly only occur before any service obligation begins not after.

    Convert all the military positions you want into civilians and contractors except mandate that all future DoD civilians and government contractors must be equally deployable as a condition of employment to be fit and ready to go where duty calls to support mission or war fighters otherwise just keep uniformed members doing their jobs both in garrison and at the less cozy sharp end.
    :usa2
    Good list.

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    Re: “7 things that must be at the top of Hagel's 'to do' list”

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert F. Dorr View Post
    I haven't formed an opinion so I'm curious to know why you think this.
    Well he survived the Jewish Lobby's Neocon attack dogs, so I'd say he's off to a good start.

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    Re: “7 things that must be at the top of Hagel's 'to do' list”

    Quote Originally Posted by Jamethon View Post
    So if I get injured and go to a civilian hospital because there is not a military hospital in my area, how is that going to be paid for? Bases without ER's and specialists that you need to be referred off base to? Healthcare is going to need to be outsourced somehow...
    That’s the point. The majority of Military installations used to have this capability in-house. Like everything else. It was outsourced to private industry (supposedly to save money) in the 90s. Now Senators (that are married to Billionaires) and Generals (that are going to get paid Millions to work for Defense Industry as Consultants or sign Million dollar book contracts) are telling us it's unsustainable and the troops and their families or retirees are going to have to get kicked off the Tricare rolls. Outsourcing is a euphemism for Mega Corporations gorging themselves at the Taxpayer trough. Now the DoD budget is busted. and who do you think is going to pick up the tab first? Lockheed or Private Snuffy?

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    Re: “7 things that must be at the top of Hagel's 'to do' list”

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert F. Dorr View Post
    Yes on all of that except instead of five years make it a lifetime ban.

    In the distant past this would have been self-policing: Any self-respecting officer of the Marshall, Arnold and Eisenhower era would have thought it beneath contempt to accept a job with a company that makes planes and equipment for the military.
    I don't really have a problem so much with that as, i do this army of hundreds of thousands of staff augmentation support contractors, Most supplementally funded (to circumvent the law and congressional oversight), that are still on the books. We're supposedly busted and going to have to give 100K plus troops the boot and put nearly a Million Civil Servants on leave without pay. but, yet we still have these guys on the books. I don't think most people here understand this. Supplemental funds are supposed to be for emergencies until such time as you can reasonably estimate the cost. We're still using them 12 years later. You can't buy end strength with supplemental funds. This was done intentionally to hide the true costs in both blood and money from the public.

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    Re: “7 things that must be at the top of Hagel's 'to do' list”

    I really liked #5, #6, and #7...

    5. Change the way the Pentagon spends money. This is a tall order but many defense programs have “use or lose” incentives; if you don’t spend all your money, you may get less money to spend next year. This system creates incentives for waste. Instead, Hagel and his team should create incentives for thrift and innovation and implement the same best practices that work in the private sector.

    6. Reform defense contracting practices to prioritize “effectiveness” over “fairness.”

    7. Implement “smart” spending. The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) uses a smart system for paying its officers when they travel -- they receive a flat fee. Everyone gets the same amount – and they can use it to stay in a nice hotel, or pick a cheaper hotel and pocket the difference – it eliminates fraud and the “nickel and diming” of employees under the current system. It's no secret that excessive bureaucracy leads to unnecessary waste.
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    Re: “7 things that must be at the top of Hagel's 'to do' list”

    Quote Originally Posted by Pullinteeth View Post
    I really liked #5, #6, and #7...

    5. Change the way the Pentagon spends money. This is a tall order but many defense programs have “use or lose” incentives; if you don’t spend all your money, you may get less money to spend next year. This system creates incentives for waste. Instead, Hagel and his team should create incentives for thrift and innovation and implement the same best practices that work in the private sector.

    6. Reform defense contracting practices to prioritize “effectiveness” over “fairness.”

    7. Implement “smart” spending. The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) uses a smart system for paying its officers when they travel -- they receive a flat fee. Everyone gets the same amount – and they can use it to stay in a nice hotel, or pick a cheaper hotel and pocket the difference – it eliminates fraud and the “nickel and diming” of employees under the current system. It's no secret that excessive bureaucracy leads to unnecessary waste.
    Spot on. +1
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