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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkHeart View Post
    Ah, so is he saying gays' standards for where they do "it" are higher?
    No, they just don't get in trouble for being in the same sex room of another. The GO1B is not stopping people from having sex, but keeps people from entering the living quarters of someone of the opposite sex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WILDJOKER5 View Post
    No, they just don't get in trouble for being in the same sex room of another. The GO1B is not stopping people from having sex, but keeps people from entering the living quarters of someone of the opposite sex.
    I was just being silly, I didn't need a serious answer. Just taking the piss out of Sgt HULK's nonsense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkHeart View Post
    I was just being silly, I didn't need a serious answer. Just taking the piss out of Sgt HULK's nonsense.
    Ah, ok. Wasn't sure...is that enough characters to press post?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TJMAC77SP View Post
    Perhaps the statements about straights showering with the opposite sex is more an illustrative devil's advocate observation. I for one don't want to shower with the opposite sex (as a group....one on one is always ok). However, I see these remarks as thought provoking and illustrating other issues which some seem to want to pretend aren't there.

    No offense to our gay posters but I think much too much credit is being given with the assumption that a gay person would not engage in gawking etc but that a straight person would. I think most straight men would do everything they could to NOT look but would 'sneak' looks because it is in part biology. You may not like it but it is biology.
    Well, here's the thing...a gay man showering with other man is NOT the same as a straight man showering with women.

    First of all, that gay person has ALWAYS been able to shower with his same gender...since jr. high school. Any time he wants to, he can run over to the gym and hit the showers...it can NOT possibly be as big of a deal to him as it would be to us to be able to use the women's showers. I mean, that is where we all plan to hang out the minute the "Invisible Man" becomes a reality...yet, a gay man can do this anytime, but still leads a productive life.

    Probably kind of like why you and I don't blow our loads upon seeing a woman's ankle...but a Middle Eastern man might.

    Secondly, it's more about gender than sexual attraction...still waiting for one of the "shower guys" to answer...if sexual attraction is the main factor, why they don't feel equally comfortable showering/changing with their sister as they do their brother...their mother as they do their father...or their grandmother as they do their grandfather? Is there a sexual attraction in any of those relationships?

    Now........why is my assertion any less valid than anyone else's?
    Not that the assertion is less valid...but is the showers in the US military enviornment really SOOOO unique from showers anywhere else on the planet that has not had to specifically deny gays from the showers?

    If there really is no way to do this fairly...shouldn't we then shoot for the fairest possible? What is more fair...you may have to alter your showering by 10 minutes if you don't want to shower with someone you know to be gay...or that gay person is not allowed to serve at all?

    I have said it before and will repeat it. This situation is far more complicated than some would like to believe. As other posters have stated.....it will take time and patience on the part of ALL to bring this back to normal.
    I still don't get the shower thing...if I KNOW someone is gay, just don't shower at the same time as them. If I don't KNOW he's gay...then that's what we've had for the last 18 years.

    Can someone please explain the situation where they were forced into the showers with a gay person.

    On another thread there was discussion of the spouses of same-sex couples when the military member is deployed and how much support they would receive. I thought of the organizations like the Army's FRG and would hope that these groups will embrace these spouses (or even significant others as I hope they do with the SOs of unmarried man-woman couples). I don't think we will see it widespread this year but perhaps soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by giggawatt View Post
    Of course if there were open unisex showers there would be people sneaking a peak at the sex that they are attracted to. That is biology. I agree with that post. Look at Europe and nude or topless beaches. Of course Americans are easy to spot because they can't help themselves and stare or they're not good at hiding their peaks. However, I may be wrong, but it's not a big deal in Europe because they are used to it and are desensitized. To the American, seeing a topless girl in public is taboo. If that kind of thing were normal in American society, I don't think this would be as big of a deal. I think this is a big reason why strip clubs in a lot of European countries are more physical than visual.
    Yes....much like seeing an ankle is not the same for an American as it is a Saudi....or seeing a boob not the same for a German as an American....being in the shower for a gay man is not the same as a straight man showering with women.

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    So, now that DADT has been repealed...who has had a member in their unit "come out"?

    Have you showered with this person previously?

    Under what circumstances do you envision being forced into the shower with this person in the future?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Measure Man View Post
    So, now that DADT has been repealed...who has had a member in their unit "come out"?

    Have you showered with this person previously?

    Under what circumstances do you envision being forced into the shower with this person in the future?
    I had a guy come out to me while we were in the shower together the other day. I said "Great, you mind shaving my back for me?" I turned around and he was gone, it was kind of strange.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AJBIGJ View Post
    I had a guy come out to me while we were in the shower together the other day. I said "Great, you mind shaving my back for me?" I turned around and he was gone, it was kind of strange.
    ewwww......
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    I danced around completely naked for about an hour in the men's locker room at the Ramstein North Gym, and even tried to High-5 a few Chiefs and some officers too! I was singing the main chorus to "Free-Falling" by Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, only I changed the words to "Free-Balling" instead!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MACHINE666 View Post
    I danced around completely naked for about an hour in the men's locker room at the Ramstein North Gym, and even tried to High-5 a few Chiefs and some officers too! I was singing the main chorus to "Free-Falling" by Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, only I changed the words to "Free-Balling" instead!

    I stuck to the standard "It's raining men", I even put on the tights!
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    I just wish major cultural changes were as easy as stated here. Life and the world would be a much simpler place to live that is for sure............
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