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    I grew up in a subdivision on the west side of Cincinnati, Ohio. Back then either in 1969 or 1970 several houses had the 4-foot-high above ground swimming pools with the metal shell and liner inside. There were different widths like 18 foot, 21 foot and 24 foot. Behind the subdivision was a pretty wide open space of at least 100 yards. Anyway, this was a clear summer day, and I was about 13 years old so I'm going to say it was 1969. We saw a jet fighter coming from the south that was flying at pretty low altitude. We all started frantically waving our arms back and forth (just a bunch of kids) as the plane flew by. He was headed north on a course I'd guess of about 340 degrees. We later speculated that he was headed to Wright Patterson AFB in Dayton, Ohio. So the plane looked as it he was just going to keep going, and so I ducked down under the water to swim around some. About 20 seconds (I'm not sure of the exact amount of time) I looked up and this plane was coming straight out of the east (heading 270 degrees) and diving down on us!! I'm not exaggerating when I say he was no more than 25 feet above the ground when he crossed over the pool. And man that thing was loud!! As he went past the pool he started to climb and went to a course of about 310 degrees. As he was pulling up, he quickly rolled his wings left and right--about 20 degree rolls I would say. He rolled very fast and hard as if he was just acknowledging our presence. Then he leveled off and turned almost due north and went on. I'm guessing it was an F-4, but I don't know for sure.

    You have to remember I was a 13-year-old kid at the time. That was an event burned into my memory I have never forgotten. This was the time when kids played back in the woods and sawed down trees and shot BB guns and stuff like that. We weren't just zombies in front of our electronic toys. Sometimes I wonder who that pilot was and were he served. Could you imagine somebody doing that tody in the politically correct world we live in?

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    No. When I was a child growing up in Warner Robins, the F-15s coming out of depot maintenance and undergoing their test flights would routinely break the sound barrier; windows would shake, dogs would bark, the cats (if you had them) would run and hide, and car alarms would go off. As a child, this was the coolest thing ever. I guess if you were a sensitive adult home owner, it wasn't; by the mid-to-late 90s, the F-15s would have to go out over the Atlantic to break the sound barrier due to some complaints.

    Today, pilots are rewarded with this: http://www.airforcetimes.com/article...er-was-too-low

    There is a story that I've heard before back home in Georgia - not sure if its real or urban legend - in which someone contacted the base to complain about the loudness of the aircraft during takeoff and during their test flights. The military person on the phone asks, "Well are these aircraft American or are they the aircraft of a foreign enemy?" The person replies, "Umm, American?", to which the military person says, "Exactly. Thank you." and hangs up.

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    Re: F-4 diving on subdivision swimming pool 1969

    A story concerning a low flyover:

    Since we had a less than happy flyover article last week, we thought we’d reach back into the archives and bring out a feel good flyover story from our classic bilge folder. Luke Air Force Base, located just outside of Glendale Arizona, a rapidly growing part of the country, is the largest F-16 base in the world. With some 200 F-16s operational on site, they are the training center for hundreds of pilots making their way up the ladder. The convergence of a large civilian population springing up around an old military installation (building started on the base in 1941) has caused some friction. Noise complaints are common, but one in particular became a national story when a resident of nearby Peoria sent a letter to the editor of the Arizona Republic in June, 2005. The fallout from that letter has become a favorite pass around in the email world, and for once it is a very true (and touching) story.

    The Most Common Email

    Luke Air Force Base Noise
    Luke AFB is west of Phoenix and is rapidly being surrounded by civilization that complains about the noise from the base and its planes, forgetting that it was there long before they were. A certain lieutenant colonel at Luke AFB deserves a big pat on the back. Apparently, an individual who lives somewhere near Luke AFB wrote the local paper complaining about a group of F-16s that disturbed his/her day at the mall.

    When that individual read the response from a Luke AFB officer, it must Have stung quite a bit.

    The complaint:

    ‘Question of the day for Luke Air Force Base:

    Whom do we thank for the morning air show? Last Wednesday, at precisely 9:11 A.M, a tight formation of four F-16 jets made a low pass over Arrowhead Mall, continuing west over Bell Road at approximately 500 feet. Imagine our good fortune! Do the Tom Cruise-wannabes feel we need this wake-up call, or were they trying to impress the cashiers at Mervyns early bird special?

    Any response would be appreciated.

    The response:

    Regarding ‘A wake-up call from Luke’s jets’ On June 15, at precisely 9:12 a.m., a perfectly timed four- ship fly by of F-1 6s from the 63rd Fighter Squadron at Luke Air Force Base flew over the grave of Capt. Jeremy Fresques. Capt Fresques was an Air Force officer who was previously stationed at Luke Air Force Base and was killed in Iraq on May 30, Memorial Day.

    At 9 a. m. on June 15, his family and friends gathered at Sunland Memorial Park in Sun City to mourn the loss of a husband, son and friend. Based on the letter writer’s recount of the fly by, and because of the jet noise, I’m sure you didn’t hear the 21-gun salute, the playing of taps, or my words to the widow and parents of Capt. Fresques as I gave them their son’s flag on behalf of the President of the United States and all those veterans and servicemen and women who understand the sacrifices they have endured..

    A four-ship fly by is a display of respect the Air Force gives to those who give their lives in defense of freedom. We are professional aviators and take our jobs seriously, and on June 15 what the letter writer witnessed was four officers lining up to pay their ultimate respects.

    The letter writer asks, ‘Whom do we thank for the morning air show? The 56th Fighter Wing will make the call for you, and forward your thanks to the widow and parents of Capt Fresques, and thank them for you, for it was in their honor that my pilots flew the most honorable formation of their lives.

    Only 2 defining forces have ever offered to die for you…..Jesus Christ and the American Soldier….One died for your soul, the other for your freedom.

    Lt. Col. Grant L. Rosensteel, Jr.


    Follow Up – Humility

    In a rare case of humility, Mr. MacRae followed up on his letter with a well written apology. His newly found respect for the military and his words of support for the fallen is usually left off the email, unfortunately. It is an excellent response.


    Regarding “Flyby honoring fallen comrade” (Letters, June 28):

    I read with increasing embarrassment and humility the response to my unfortunate letter to The Republic concerning an Air Force flyby (“A wake-up call from Luke’s jets,” Letters, June 23).

    I had no idea of the significance of the flyby, and would never have insulted such a fine and respectful display had I known. I have received many calls from the fine airmen who are serving or have served at Luke, and I have attempted to explain my side and apologized for any discomfort my letter has caused. This was simply an uninformed citizen complaining about noise.

    I have been made aware in both written and verbal communications of the four-ship flyby, and my heart goes out to each and every lost serviceman and woman in this war in which we are engaged. I have been called un-American by an unknown caller and I feel that I must address that. I served in the U.S. Navy and am a Vietnam veteran. I love my country and respect the jobs that the service organizations are doing.

    Please accept my heartfelt apologies.

    Tom MacRae, Peoria

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOSS302 View Post
    No. When I was a child growing up in Warner Robins, the F-15s coming out of depot maintenance and undergoing their test flights would routinely break the sound barrier; windows would shake, dogs would bark, the cats (if you had them) would run and hide, and car alarms would go off. As a child, this was the coolest thing ever. I guess if you were a sensitive adult home owner, it wasn't; by the mid-to-late 90s, the F-15s would have to go out over the Atlantic to break the sound barrier due to some complaints.

    Today, pilots are rewarded with this: http://www.airforcetimes.com/article...er-was-too-low

    There is a story that I've heard before back home in Georgia - not sure if its real or urban legend - in which someone contacted the base to complain about the loudness of the aircraft during takeoff and during their test flights. The military person on the phone asks, "Well are these aircraft American or are they the aircraft of a foreign enemy?" The person replies, "Umm, American?", to which the military person says, "Exactly. Thank you." and hangs up.
    That Iowa vs. Ohio State flyover was really cool. Let's go back to 1969, and all they would get would be a slap on the wrist.

    I've been to many TCU games in Ft. Worth, and they have a lot of flyovers. But the most impressive to me was a B-52 flyover at a Cincinnati Bengal game a few years ago. To me that aircraft is the symbol of American might and power. That thing was loud and it is a giant airplane. I didn't get a picture of it because I wasn't expecting it, but here is the stadium that day. They said it came from Wright Patterson AFB.


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    I experienced something similar when I was about 13... I was working for a family friend - a farmer up in North Dakota. I'd been in the tractor for five or six hours at that point running the plow back and forth. At that point, I was hot, tired, and bored out of my mind. As I crested one of the rolling hills, I sensed, felt, saw, and then heard an F-4 come over my head so low I could not only read the fine print, I could see the shit-eating grin on the pilot's face (on his second pass). I've never come so close to defficating in my pants as I did on his first pass. If it had been an open -cabbed tractor, I'd have problably fallen off of it. He ended up making a few mock strafing runs at me before a making slow loop, giving me a wing wave and flying off.

    He was one of the Happy Hooligans out of Fargo...and originally from my home town. He thought he was strafing his brother (one-field over), but gave me an aerial demonstration I'll never forget.
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    cool storys bro
    I Support unisex bathrooms and unisex lockerroom..:biggrin

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    lane I guess buzzing Crater Lake at 65' in a P-3 is boring....how about buzzing in an RA-5C 50' off the deck at 1k knots...lane:triumphant:

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    When I was stationed in Turkey in the 1980s the Turks still flew F-104s and F-100s. They had no restrictions on breaking Mach and would occasionally buzz our radar site and broke a few windows on one occasion.

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    aThis is not a flyover story but similar. In the 80s At George AFB, one of the details we had in was to drive patients to the Navy Hospital in San Diego. One of my friends, Bill, was a TSgt at the time and it was his turn to be the duty driver. The patient required required transportation in an ambulance with an med tech. He drove the ambulance to the Navy Hospital and dropped off the patient and the med tech who accompanied the patient to their appointment. Since the appointment was going to be a couple of hours Bill decided he'd visit his mother who lived nearby. So he did what any good son would do and when he turned onto the block she lived on he turned-on the siren and emergency lights and pulled into her driveway. Needless to say, his mother's neighbors all came out to see what the problem was and his mother had to explain it was just her son having some fun with her.

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    TDY to Forsyth Montana (bomb range radar site) we were working an FB-111. We wanted him to do a low-level buzz (bubble check) over our site (a group of trailers & radar dishes). I was the radio communicator trying to vector him over our site, when he radioed in that he had us on visual and did not need my guidance (typical pilot). Since we were still tracking him and seeing that he was not heading our way I tried in vain to correct him.
    Anyhow, seems he buzzed some rancher's double wide trailer and satellite TV dish (located about 35 miles from our site) at about 50 ft off the deck.
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