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Thread: BTZ system is flawed...

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    Exclamation BTZ system is flawed...

    I would like to post that I think the system is unfair (haha don't we all)...anyway...

    6 year enlistee gets SrA at 28 months... with BTZ meaning 22 months time in service

    4 year enlistee gets SrA at 36 months... with BTZ meaning 30 months time in service

    I think we can all agree that BTZ depends on whether or not you have a good supervisor and the type of bullets you can get. It also depends on your base and who you're competing against at the time. So basically it's a right time and right place type of deal with deployments usually a good guarantee of BTZ...

    If you're unfortunate enough to get stuck with some supervisor who never submits a package then you're out of luck

    Meaning you could enlist with someone on the EXACT same day and one gets E-4 at 22 months while the other gets it at 36 months with both being equal troops...

    Thats a difference of 14 MONTHS....WAY too big of a gap in the Airman category...

    Even worse than not making the same rank as your buddy you enlisted with is when you make rank the same day as someone who joined 14 months prior to you and that time in service means nothing to them

    It would suck to have 35 months time in service with one more month to go and then have some "fresh from tech school" troop say "F**k you, you're the same rank as me"

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    Re: BTZ system is flawed...

    ever meet the SrA BTZ/SSgt first time guy with ZERO experience and
    limited knowledge, but thinks they know everything and have all the answers?

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    Re: BTZ system is flawed...

    I know Staffs with zero experience but they know that flexing their muscles too soon usually makes them look bad in front of others who knew them as an Airman only a week prior.

    I just still cant get over the 35 months TIS versus the brand new troop being the SAME rank

    That's just flat out wrong...

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    Re: BTZ system is flawed...

    The thing that irritates me the most about BTZ is that you could know absolutely jack shit about your job, but as long as you volunteer and get face time with your leadership, you're probably gonna get it. That's been my experience anyway.

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    Re: BTZ system is flawed...

    Is it just me or are the two choices for the poll "." or "."?
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    Re: BTZ system is flawed...

    Quote Originally Posted by Shrike View Post
    Is it just me or are the two choices for the poll "." or "."?
    I'm partial to "?"
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    Re: BTZ system is flawed...

    Quote Originally Posted by jacobdaniel View Post
    The thing that irritates me the most about BTZ is that you could know absolutely jack shit about your job, but as long as you volunteer and get face time with your leadership, you're probably gonna get it. That's been my experience anyway.
    Or be so HORRIBLE at your job, that leadership doesn't want you in the shop even AROUND your job so "Yeah, Amn Snuffy, you can go give cookies to orphans"

    Then BAM! BTZ!

    Not that I'm bitter or anything

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    I have seen the guy who failed his CDC EOC right before his EPR was written for the BTZ package. Everyone knew he didnt know his job. This guy got firewall 5 and BTZ with failing his EOC. The sad part was, the shop chiefs played ignorant to the failure, the supervisor ommited the failure on the EPR, and all the airmen knew what happened. Talk about an irrate shop afterwards.
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    Re: BTZ system is flawed...

    Quote Originally Posted by Shrike View Post
    Is it just me or are the two choices for the poll "." or "."?
    yeah, my bad, I didn't mean to make it a poll but it didnt let me go back and fix it

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    Re: BTZ system is flawed...

    The entire promotion system for E-1 through E-5 is flawed. Promotion should be based on merit, job knowledge and TIS...not just TIS.
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