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    Giving us our time back

    Airmen's time tour makes follow-up visits
    by Maj. Timothy Farr
    Personnel Services Delivery Transformation Program Integration Office

    7/22/2009 - WASHINGTON (AFNS) -- In today's fast-paced, resourced-constrained environment, Air Force officials here said they are attempting to return a precious commodity to Airmen: time.

    A team, chartered by Lt. Gen. Richard Y. Newton III, the deputy chief of staff for manpower and personnel, will visit units at 11 Air Force installations as a follow up to last year's review revealed numerous strains on Airmen's time.

    "I want the team to go back out, look at what changes have been made, assess the impact, and come up with another set of recommendations, General Newton said. "The team has also been directed to be laser focused on total force solutions for the active and Reserve components as well."

    While visiting with leaders at each installation, the team will focus on additional duties, ancillary training, commander's programs, administrative support processes and personnel services delivery. Last year, the team found a number of areas in which to give Airmen time back and improve efficiencies in these areas. For example, the team recommended approval for 1,200 civilian administrative positions to be added back into larger squadrons. (my note: this is another way to say orderly room people are coming back)
    These additions will free up time for commanders and first sergeants for leadership opportunities and reduce the number of Airmen performing administrative duties outside of their core Air Force specialty code. The team also made a number of recommendations that led to improvements in information technology support and ancillary training policies.

    Mark Doboga, the director of plans and integration for manpower and personnel, will lead the team consisting of members from the Air Staff, Air National Guard, Air Force Reserve, Air Force Personnel Center, and the Air Force Manpower Agency.

    They will visit Mountain Home Air Force Base, Idaho; Osan Air Base, South Korea; Elmendorf AFB, Alaska; Kulis Air National Guard Base, Alaska; Randolph AFB, Texas; Charleston AFB, S.C.; McEntire Air National Guard Base, S.C.; Hurlburt Field, Fla.; Eglin AFB, Fla.; Aviano AB, Italy; and Royal Air Force Mildenhall, England.

    As was done last year, General Newton will share the results of this initiative with command staffs, functional communities and the Air Force's senior leaders to effect changes to policies and programs that will institute meaningful solutions for the field.
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    on a seperate topic of time and/or days off...Ever been to a base where everything is mandatory?
    Thanksgiving in the highbay - mandatory, christmas party - mandatory or worse yet, declaring
    that going to the state fair on military appreciation day is considered being at your (ALTERNATE DUTY LOCATION) I am still laughing at that one!

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    Re: Giving us our time back

    LMMFBO

    They will turn ten idiotic additional duties into twenty, but each of the twenty will only take 3/4's the time each of the ten did.

    And of course, we will have 5 new CBT's to complete (annually of course) in order to learn and stay proficient in these new duties.

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    I like the fact that they're aware of the problem and are trying to do something about it. In adding the civilian positions, I think they also need to take a hard look at which additional duties can be performed by civilians. For example, most squadrons have a safety NCO, why can't a civilian do this duty? For that matter, why do squadrons that just do paperwork (MPF, finance, etc) have to have a dedicated safety person? Couldn't they share?

    I'm not picking on safety here, there are a lot of duties that are this way - training manager, etc.
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    An orderly return of support staff
    Staff report
    Posted : Thursday Jul 23, 2009 17:30:14 EDT

    The orderly room is back, sort of.

    Two years ago, the Air Force announced squadron commanders were losing their in-house personnel staff — the enlisted airmen of the orderly room who managed unit programs such as the Government Travel Card program.

    The change prompted grumbling among squadron commanders and first sergeants who wondered just who was expected to take over those duties. Air Force personnel leaders promised automation and wing-level personnel specialists would help.

    It didn’t work out that way.

    “We found that when the commanders’ support staffs drew down, commanders were left with two options. They could either manage these tactical administrative programs themselves or pull airmen from the front lines to do it,” Air Staff-level personnel manager Maj. Christopher Busque said in an Air Force statement. “We were concerned that the resulting effect was causing a loss of mission capability.”

    The Air Force plans to hire 1,200 civilians to serve as unit liaisons to squadrons that have more than 50 military and civilian members, the Air Force announced July 21. The new employees will work on unit safety, automated data processing equipment accounts and security programs, along with the Government Travel Card program.

    Commanders who want a civilian “unit program coordinator” on the staff should contact their force support squadron/mission support squadron commander, the statement said.

    People interested in applying for a job should search the http://www.usajobs.gov/ Web site or the Air Force’s secure employment site for “Unit Program Coordinator, GS-0303, YB-0303” for bases with openings. The jobs will have GS-06, GS-07 or YB-1 pay scales.
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    So, how many times after taking 1 step forward, followed by 3 steps back, does it
    take to eventually pass go and collect heritage???

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    The orderly room is dead! Long live the orderly room!

    It's good to see the return of orderly rooms, and it only took shooting ourselves in the foot to realize the CSS was needed. It'd be interesting to know how many airmen worked in support of the CSS compared to the 1,200 civilians we'll be getting. It's nice to have a little more stability in the position and not having to worry about that person deploying.

    My one hope is whoever is spinning up this initiative is very thorough about what is outlined in the job description/duties, you'll have a hard time pressing a civilian to do something that's not outlined in the contract.

    Now about all those other add'l duties....

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    Re: Giving us our time back

    Quote Originally Posted by mjt View Post
    It'd be interesting to know how many airmen worked in support of the CSS compared to the 1,200 civilians we'll be getting. It's nice to have a little more stability in the position and not having to worry about that person deploying.

    My one hope is whoever is spinning up this initiative is very thorough about what is outlined in the job description/duties, you'll have a hard time pressing a civilian to do something that's not outlined in the contract.

    Now about all those other add'l duties....
    I know where you're coming from here - but what about downrange units? Eliminate the blue suiters from orderly room duty and you've no one to take care of units downrange - and, just because we're deployed, we still have to do all the actions at HS that the orderly room accomplishes. My last deployment, the CC pulled someone from the mission for 1/2 a day to act as the orderly room - I'm not saying that's right or wrong, but that is what happened.

    My 2 cents is that an orderly room works best with both military and civilian positions in it.
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    Whole-heartedly agree. This is definitely a "take two steps backwards to take one step forward" approach. I can't say that I've seen an orderly room in action while deployed, but I'd be up for some stories about there effectiveness down range. Can never have enough knowledge. Thanks for the input.

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    Yep, they vacationed and didn't solve a f@cking thing.

    (Zombie post)

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    Re: Giving us our time back

    If they going to give us time back then they need to stop taking vacations on the government dime and start with simple stuff like:

    Cut AFI's.
    Cut CBT's.
    Cut mass emails.
    Cut EPR bulltets.
    Cut Duty Time PT.
    Cut Commander's Calls, Pre-staff Meetings, Staff Meetings, Ceremonies, etc
    Cut Commanders...all they do is stir up more useless work than anything
    Cut Mandatory Fun.
    Cut Volunteering on Duty.
    ...

    We know where out time is being wasted...stop wasting more money and just listen to people.

    It's like our actual jobs have become extra-curricular activities to do in our spare time and everything else is more important....

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    They gave me my time back...and they took it all away again.

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