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    Meet the Fort Meade trans women fighting the military’s ban

    https://www.militarytimes.com/news/y...militarys-ban/

    Great! Now we're calling it gender dysphoria and gender identity disorder.

    Key word: Disorder!!! This is considered a pre-existing condition which the VA should not compensate. We can't have a bunch of MASH episodes with Klinger running around trying to figure out what sex they want or just trying to get a discharge for VA benefits.

    As long as they are recognizing it as a disorder, let's treat it as such as ban them from the military as they have banned other disorders from military service. This is no exception!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeaLawyer View Post
    https://www.militarytimes.com/news/y...militarys-ban/

    Great! Now we're calling it gender dysphoria and gender identity disorder.

    Key word: Disorder!!! This is considered a pre-existing condition which the VA should not compensate. We can't have a bunch of MASH episodes with Klinger running around trying to figure out what sex they want or just trying to get a discharge for VA benefits.

    As long as they are recognizing it as a disorder, let's treat it as such as ban them from the military as they have banned other disorders from military service. This is no exception!
    Klinger was laughed at for trying to get kicked out this way. Today Klinger would be celebrated with his own 'month,' and anyone laughing would be labeled as a bigot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FLAPS View Post
    Klinger was laughed at for trying to get kicked out this way. Today Klinger would be celebrated with his own 'month,' and anyone laughing would be labeled as a bigot.
    How true that is!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FLAPS View Post
    Klinger was laughed at for trying to get kicked out this way. Today Klinger would be celebrated with his own 'month,' and anyone laughing would be labeled as a bigot.
    I got the impression no one at the 4077th paid him much mind ... thinking he was 1. full of crap, 2. he still did his job.
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    Here we go again...

    You guys do realize that Kristin Beck, one of the Seal Team 6 badasses, is transgender, right? Go tell one of the Seals who took out Bin Laden that they should never have served and were unfit for duty because you guys refuse to educate yourself on a subject that makes you uncomfortable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meatbringer View Post
    Here we go again...

    You guys do realize that Kristin Beck, one of the Seal Team 6 badasses, is transgender, right? Go tell one of the Seals who took out Bin Laden that they should never have served and were unfit for duty because you guys refuse to educate yourself on a subject that makes you uncomfortable.
    Who ever said it made me uncomfortable? I'm merely pointing out the fact it's considered a "dysphoria" and "disorder." Like many other disqualifying disorders (As mentioned with ADHD) we turn away highly potential candidates because of this disability yet we're willing to make an exception for people with gender identity disorder and/or gender dysphoria?

    My comfort factor is not an issue here. I work with a couple of transgenders as we speak (type) and they do a fabulous job. I also have a good rapport with both of them. This is merely a point of pre-existing conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meatbringer View Post
    Here we go again...

    You guys do realize that Kristin Beck, one of the Seal Team 6 badasses, is transgender, right? Go tell one of the Seals who took out Bin Laden that they should never have served and were unfit for duty because you guys refuse to educate yourself on a subject that makes you uncomfortable.
    From Wikipedia:

    "Beck retired from the Navy in 2011 with final rating as Senior Chief Special Warfare Operator when she began transitioning by dressing as a woman."

    In other words, Christopher Beck (aka "Kristin") was NOT displaying symptoms of his mental disorder until after leaving the military.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjölnir View Post
    I got the impression no one at the 4077th paid him much mind ... thinking he was 1. full of crap, 2. he still did his job.
    Yes, I thought I pointed that out. When M.A.S.H. was being filmed, Klinger's role was to make audiences laugh. There is no way on Earth Klinger's character would be allowed to exist in a 2019 version of M.A.S.H.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meatbringer View Post
    you guys refuse to educate yourself on a subject that makes you uncomfortable.
    Here's your shot meatbringer. If a person is born as a male and later changes his name to a female's, starts wearing female clothing, and insists he is now a female, is this person pretending to be a female, or is this person now an actual female?

    Can you educate me, or are you going to insist that I read a book or otherwise find the answer somewhere else. If you do the later, then I guess it's safe to assume that you don't really know the answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FLAPS View Post
    From Wikipedia:

    "Beck retired from the Navy in 2011 with final rating as Senior Chief Special Warfare Operator when she began transitioning by dressing as a woman."

    In other words, Christopher Beck (aka "Kristin") was NOT displaying symptoms of his mental disorder until after leaving the military.


    So you seriously think that Beck simply suddenly decided that he wanted to transition after leaving service? Wow, you once again display your ignorance. If you actually knew about Kristin Beck, then you would know that, as a male, he felt trapped in the wrong body since grade school. He didn't suddenly decide or "display symptoms of a mental disorder" right after leaving service. He had always felt that way but chose not to transition until after retirement! They even made a documentary about it! Christ.... There are interviews where Beck even talks about this.

    Nice quick Wikipedia reference, though. Lol! Like I've said about a hundred times to you, freaking educate yourself before spouting garbage.

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