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garhkal
12-28-2016, 05:28 AM
So anyone here use these car (taxi like) services? Anyone here a Driver for either..??

Bos Mutus
12-28-2016, 02:26 PM
So anyone here use these car (taxi like) services? Anyone here a Driver for either..??

I have used Uber before...pretty convenient.

Rusty Jones
12-28-2016, 03:05 PM
Yes, I've driven for both right up until I deployed.

Which one is better? Results may vary, depending on where you live. Lyft takes less off the top, so you end up making more money PER FARE with them. However, in my area (i.e., the Hampton Roads area of Virginia), very few people actually use Lyft, so you get more fares with Uber. Furthermore, you need to net $50 with Lyft before you can cash out. With Uber, as soon as you have two weeks on the job, you can cash out whenever you want.

So which one is better? Depends on where you live.

sandsjames
12-28-2016, 05:56 PM
I find it odd that Uber marketing focuses on black male drivers. Haven't quite figured out why.

Mjölnir
12-29-2016, 10:32 AM
I find it odd that Uber marketing focuses on black male drivers. Haven't quite figured out why.

This article gets into that a bit ... for better or worse.

http://fusion.net/story/170983/uber-racial-politics/

garhkal
12-29-2016, 05:33 PM
SO Uber sees itself as a social justice tool..
That and their "no smoking in your OWN bloody car when 'on shift' thing, put them out of the running..

Rusty Jones
12-29-2016, 08:38 PM
SO Uber sees itself as a social justice tool..
That and their "no smoking in your OWN bloody car when 'on shift' thing, put them out of the running..

Yeah, God forbid the app that they use makes it near impossible to racially profile passengers from whom the drivers get notification.

Fuck them for that. Guess we'll just have to look at Lyft then, huh?

Rainmaker
12-29-2016, 08:50 PM
Yeah, God forbid the app that they use makes it near impossible to racially profile passengers from whom the drivers get notification.

Fuck them for that. Guess we'll just have to look at Lyft then, huh?

Couple that with the uber drivers not being able to arm themselves and it's a recipe for disaster. And even though most cab drivers in our cities are non-white foreigners. Blacks still can't catch a ride!

Rusty Jones
12-29-2016, 08:52 PM
Couple that with the drivers not being able to arm themselves and you've got a recipe for disaster. And even though most cab drivers in our cities are non-white foreigners. Blacks still can't catch a ride!

Are you saying that you have to arm yourself when you get a black passenger?

Bos Mutus
12-29-2016, 08:53 PM
That and their "no smoking in your OWN bloody car when 'on shift' thing, put them out of the running..

Seems like a reasonable requirement to me.

I think a lot of customers would be put off if Uber drivers were smoking.

Rainmaker
12-29-2016, 08:54 PM
Are you saying that you have to arm yourself when you get a black passenger?

Why else do you think blacks are getting racially profiled by non-white cab drivers in progressive cities with the strictest gun control laws?

Rusty Jones
12-29-2016, 08:54 PM
Seems like a reasonable requirement to me.

I think a lot of customers would be put off if Uber drivers were smoking.

I doubt Lyft allows it either. Like I said, I drove for both, but I'm a non-smoker so it wasn't exactly a rule that I needed to pay much attention to.

Rusty Jones
12-29-2016, 08:55 PM
Why else do you think blacks are getting racially profiled by non-white cab drivers in progressive cities with the strictest gun control laws?

To gain acceptance from people like you.

Rainmaker
12-29-2016, 08:56 PM
To gain acceptance from people like you.

or Maybe they're just good at math?

Rusty Jones
12-29-2016, 09:25 PM
or Maybe they're just good at math?

No, it's exactly what I said. Many non-white minorities feel that conspicuous racism against blacks will result in less racism against them.

sandsjames
12-29-2016, 10:27 PM
Seems like a reasonable requirement to me.

I think a lot of customers would be put off if Uber drivers were smoking.

So they don't have to ride...make it known that your car is a smoking car...then it's up to them...the only one losing out is the driver.

sandsjames
12-29-2016, 10:28 PM
I was simply talking about the commercial for Uber saying "Get your side hustle on" didn't seem like it was targeted at white guys...

Bos Mutus
12-29-2016, 10:43 PM
So they don't have to ride...make it known that your car is a smoking car...then it's up to them...the only one losing out is the driver.

Yeah, I get it in principle...but non-smoking pick-ups seem reasonable...just like your car has to meet certain standards. They want the Uber brand associated with a certain level of service.

In principle, they could say, "hell, they don't have to take the ride"...but, then as a customer you might have to wait out several drivers to find one that isn't a death trap, etc.

That's not their business model, anyway...you request a ride in the app and the driver chooses to get you or not....but, as a customer, you can expect a certain half-way decent ride.

sandsjames
12-30-2016, 01:57 AM
Yeah, I get it in principle...but non-smoking pick-ups seem reasonable...just like your car has to meet certain standards. They want the Uber brand associated with a certain level of service.

In principle, they could say, "hell, they don't have to take the ride"...but, then as a customer you might have to wait out several drivers to find one that isn't a death trap, etc.

That's not their business model, anyway...you request a ride in the app and the driver chooses to get you or not....but, as a customer, you can expect a certain half-way decent ride.

Sure...and just like a motel they can easily ask "would you like smoking or non-smoking". Hell, I'm sure there are a lot of people who would love to be able to smoke on the way home from the bar and if it's ok with the driver and it's serving the customer it's no biggy. But, of course...smoking is bad bad bad...evil...and must not be in any way associated with anything public.

garhkal
12-30-2016, 06:25 AM
Yeah, God forbid the app that they use makes it near impossible to racially profile passengers from whom the drivers get notification.

Fuck them for that. Guess we'll just have to look at Lyft then, huh?

If they want to be involved in Social justice, Become a Non-profit activist group.. If they wanna run a business, imo Stay out of politics..


Couple that with the uber drivers not being able to arm themselves and it's a recipe for disaster. And even though most cab drivers in our cities are non-white foreigners. Blacks still can't catch a ride!

I almost chuckled when i initially read that several months back.. How would they even know the person is a CCW holder?


Seems like a reasonable requirement to me.

I think a lot of customers would be put off if Uber drivers were smoking.

Strange, i have been in cabs where MORE of them hated the whole "non smoking" cause they AND their customers would have loved to light up.. And if its cause of people complaining.. Do those Uber drivers get told to not smoke when they are 'not on the clock'? Even if that's barely 2 minutes before they clock In?
Are they told "Don't eat peanuts in case you might get someone with a peanut allergy? Or "Don't transport your own pets, incase you get someone with a dog/cat hair allergy??


Yeah, I get it in principle...but non-smoking pick-ups seem reasonable...just like your car has to meet certain standards. They want the Uber brand associated with a certain level of service.

In principle, they could say, "hell, they don't have to take the ride"...but, then as a customer you might have to wait out several drivers to find one that isn't a death trap, etc.

That's not their business model, anyway...you request a ride in the app and the driver chooses to get you or not....but, as a customer, you can expect a certain half-way decent ride.

How is driving with someone who smokes, either before or during the trup making the car a 'death trap'? Do they breathalize everyone to ensure a driver is not drunk or high?
Or are you saying smokers are more dangerous??


Sure...and just like a motel they can easily ask "would you like smoking or non-smoking". Hell, I'm sure there are a lot of people who would love to be able to smoke on the way home from the bar and if it's ok with the driver and it's serving the customer it's no biggy. But, of course...smoking is bad bad bad...evil...and must not be in any way associated with anything public.

My point exactly SJ. As a society we seem to regard smoking almost as evil as Leppers used to be seen. Booting them out of bars, restaurants, hotels/motels, hell even in some apartment / housing communities...

Rusty Jones
12-30-2016, 06:47 AM
If they want to be involved in Social justice, Become a Non-profit activist group.. If they wanna run a business, imo Stay out of politics..
Actually, they're not involved in social justice. The effect of their app was simply a byproduct of its design.

Furthermore, even if it was intentionally designed to be more inclusive than traditional taxi service, then why is that a bad thing?

Bos Mutus
12-30-2016, 01:04 PM
Sure...and just like a motel they can easily ask "would you like smoking or non-smoking".

Lately, I've found almost all motels/hotels are 100% non-smoking.


Hell, I'm sure there are a lot of people who would love to be able to smoke on the way home from the bar and if it's ok with the driver and it's serving the customer it's no biggy. But, of course...smoking is bad bad bad...evil...and must not be in any way associated with anything public.

Does Uber say the passenger can't smoke, or just the driver?

Bos Mutus
12-30-2016, 01:42 PM
If they want to be involved in Social justice, Become a Non-profit activist group.. If they wanna run a business, imo Stay out of politics..

You forgot, "...unless they are conservative."




I almost chuckled when i initially read that several months back.. How would they even know the person is a CCW holder?

Does Joann's allow you to carry a firearm at work?


Strange, i have been in cabs where MORE of them hated the whole "non smoking" cause they AND their customers would have loved to light up.. And if its cause of people complaining.. Do those Uber drivers get told to not smoke when they are 'not on the clock'? Even if that's barely 2 minutes before they clock In?
Are they told "Don't eat peanuts in case you might get someone with a peanut allergy? Or "Don't transport your own pets, incase you get someone with a dog/cat hair allergy??

It seems you are all upset over misinformation.

I looked it up...Uber does not have a no-smoking policy

http://ucustomersupport.com/uber-smoking-policy/


How is driving with someone who smokes, either before or during the trup making the car a 'death trap'? Do they breathalize everyone to ensure a driver is not drunk or high?
Or are you saying smokers are more dangerous??

No...the 'death trap' comment was referring to having standards for vehicles



My point exactly SJ. As a society we seem to regard smoking almost as evil as Leppers used to be seen. Booting them out of bars, restaurants, hotels/motels, hell even in some apartment / housing communities...

It's different when there is a law stating these businesses must be non-smoking vs. businesses deciding they want to present a non-smoking experience.

Bos Mutus
12-30-2016, 02:40 PM
Uber has a no sex policy...damn commies



Uber has a no sex rule. That’s no sexual conduct between drivers and riders, no matter what.

https://www.uber.com/legal/community-guidelines/anz-en/

Rainmaker
12-30-2016, 02:58 PM
No, it's exactly what I said. Many non-white minorities feel that conspicuous racism against blacks will result in less racism against them.

Of course.....It couldn't possibly have anything to do with black's rampant criminality statistics, their reputation for being the worst tippers & their habit of bilking drivers on the fare..... It's only because the drivers are all just a bunch of Uncle Tom's!

Bos Mutus
12-30-2016, 08:09 PM
From the Lyft website:



No smoking policySmoking inside Lyft cars is against our community rules. There may be passengers entering the car who have respiratory issues or may be bothered by the smell, so in the spirit of respect for everyone in our community, we ask that you refrain. If a passenger reports that a driver's car smells like smoke, their account may be disabled.

https://help.lyft.com/hc/en-us/articles/213584258-Safety-Policies

garhkal
12-30-2016, 09:04 PM
Does Joann's allow you to carry a firearm at work?

Since i was an unarmed security guard (and currently don't own a firearm) whether Jo-anns did or didn't allow it is a moot point.



I looked it up...Uber does not have a no-smoking policy

http://ucustomersupport.com/uber-smoking-policy/


Strange i thought they DID.. Must have been thinking about the no firearm policy.



It's different when there is a law stating these businesses must be non-smoking vs. businesses deciding they want to present a non-smoking experience.

Which i would have no issue with, if it was LEFT to a business to make that call. BUT they can't. Heck even in TOBACCO stores you can't smoke in...

Bos Mutus
12-30-2016, 09:57 PM
Since i was an unarmed security guard (and currently don't own a firearm) whether Jo-anns did or didn't allow it is a moot point.

Not a moot point...if you wanted to carry your personal firearm while on duty, were you allowed to?


Strange i thought they DID.. Must have been thinking about the no firearm policy.

Which i would have no issue with, if it was LEFT to a business to make that call. BUT they can't. Heck even in TOBACCO stores you can't smoke in...

Oh...cuz it seemed like you DID have an issue with Uber making that call.

Not sure what exactly the tobacco laws are anymore...I know for the most part, you can not smoke in bars and restaurants these bars can not allow smoking even if they wanted to...but, I think you can allow smoking if you have only the owners working there and no other employees...

Yet...we have cigar bars and cigar lounges where they have employees and you can smoke...so there must be some way to allow it....maybe they need a special license and they need to be more about the smoking than the alcohol.

Then seems like most all casinos allow smoking. Our local Indian casino allows smoking, but they also have a non-smoking area if people want to go there...but it's a small area.

Of course, every state is different....last time I was in Virginia we found a bar we could smoke in, but only after 10 pm when they stopped serving food. Montana, I could not find anywhere that had smoking...not even a cigar lounge...not sure about the casinos.

Rusty Jones
12-31-2016, 02:31 AM
Of course.....It couldn't possibly have anything to do with black's rampant criminality statistics, their reputation for being the worst tippers & their habit of bilking drivers on the fare..... It's only because the drivers are all just a bunch of Uncle Tom's!

Well, considering the "black on black" that you like to bring up so much, I should have more to fear from black customers than non-black drivers do. But... I had no problems.

Oh, wait... I've driven conventional taxis before! Yellow Cab of Norfolk/Norfolk Checker Taxi, plus I've driven both Uber and Lyft!

Have YOU driven taxis? Have YOU driven for Uber or Lyft? Please tell me what your personal experience with passengers are, based on race?

I can tell you that I've had about the SAME number of blacks and whites fuck me out of fares when I drove taxis, and I've only had ONE Latino fuck me out of a fare (he gave it to me the next day, though).

Lemme tell you a few stories with some white customers:

1. I think I've told this one before, in fact, I was telling AA about it when he was still around. This was my FIRST case: this guy was either drunk or high on drugs, but I couldn't tell. Either way, he got us lost and ran my meter up to $130 by the time I got him back home (he had given up on trying to find the place). I worried that he was going to run, when he said he was going to the ATM (he looked like a runner. I was 275 lbs at the time). So, I saw a homeless guy in the parking lot (who also looked like a runner) and offered him $40 if he went after the guy if he tried to run. Luckily for me, the passenger was going to act like a tough guy and walk, and then challenged me to do something. I obliged, and got a good hold on the guy and forced him to drop the money and I had the homeless guy pick it up. Even though the homeless guy didn't have to run, I gave him his cut.

2. Another incident with a white guy: this was in the Ghent section of Norfolk. He had a thick Eastern European accent. I picked him up from a bar, and brought him to his house. He paid his fare and got out. Before I could drive off, he ran back to me and told me that he forgot something at the bar. So I take him to the bar, and back home again. Six dollar fare. He said he was going to "pay me later." I wasn't having that. I demanded my money, and he refused. I slapped that dude and told me to give me my money, and he started running. When I caught up to him, the same thing happened again. But when he ran off again, he dropped $20 and all was right with the world.

3. This was on a busier holiday, where the customers knew we were busy: I picked up a white woman from a house party and brought her home. She then starts checking her purse, and telling me she can't find her money. She then goes into her living room, and starts pretending to look for the money. Obviously, it's costing me more to sit there and wait for her to find the money rather than going out and getting more fares. And she knew this. Ultimately, I had no choice but to let her win and go get more fares.

Guess what? I've had three black runners, where they basically got out and ran.

Three and three. And before you start talking about population percentages and representation, it's just about even in Norfolk. 43% black and 47% white.

Again... it's all about sucking up to people like you.

Rusty Jones
12-31-2016, 02:53 AM
Of course, every state is different....last time I was in Virginia we found a bar we could smoke in, but only after 10 pm when they stopped serving food.

I've never seen that before. Must've been in Fairfax Country. They have a whole bunch of laws there that are different from the rest of the state.

Rusty Jones
12-31-2016, 02:59 AM
I can understand not wanting to be a taxi driver if you can't carry a gun, but Uber and Lyft? Why? All transactions are paid via credit or debit card through the app. Even if their card has insufficient funds or is otherwise declined, YOU won't know about it. You STILL get paid, and the company goes after the passenger for the money.

In other words... you don't carry cash on the job (unless you want to, but there's no reason for it). Obviously, if a customer orders an Uber or Lyft, they already know that, so there's no point in trying to rob you.

With actual taxis, that's a different story.

By the, garhkal, being the right-wing conservative that you are... I can't believe what I just saw you say. You don't own a gun? Not even a $200 .22 caliber pea-shooter? Get the fuck outta here!

Rainmaker
12-31-2016, 04:02 AM
Well, considering the "black on black" that you like to bring up so much, I should have more to fear from black customers than non-black drivers do. But... I had no problems.

Oh, wait... I've driven conventional taxis before! Yellow Cab of Norfolk/Norfolk Checker Taxi, plus I've driven both Uber and Lyft!

Have YOU driven taxis?
Have YOU driven for Uber or Lyft? Please tell me what your personal experience with passengers are, based on race?

I can tell you that I've had about the SAME number of blacks and whites fuck me out of fares when I drove taxis, and I've only had ONE Latino fuck me out of a fare (he gave it to me the next day, though).

Lemme tell you a few stories with some white customers:

1. I think I've told this one before, in fact, I was telling AA about it when he was still around. This was my FIRST case: this guy was either drunk or high on drugs, but I couldn't tell. Either way, he got us lost and ran my meter up to $130 by the time I got him back home (he had given up on trying to find the place). I worried that he was going to run, when he said he was going to the ATM (he looked like a runner. I was 275 lbs at the time). So, I saw a homeless guy in the parking lot (who also looked like a runner) and offered him $40 if he went after the guy if he tried to run. Luckily for me, the passenger was going to act like a tough guy and walk, and then challenged me to do something. I obliged, and got a good hold on the guy and forced him to drop the money and I had the homeless guy pick it up. Even though the homeless guy didn't have to run, I gave him his cut.

2. Another incident with a white guy: this was in the Ghent section of Norfolk. He had a thick Eastern European accent. I picked him up from a bar, and brought him to his house. He paid his fare and got out. Before I could drive off, he ran back to me and told me that he forgot something at the bar. So I take him to the bar, and back home again. Six dollar fare. He said he was going to "pay me later." I wasn't having that. I demanded my money, and he refused. I slapped that dude and told me to give me my money, and he started running. When I caught up to him, the same thing happened again. But when he ran off again, he dropped $20 and all was right with the world.

3. This was on a busier holiday, where the customers knew we were busy: I picked up a white woman from a house party and brought her home. She then starts checking her purse, and telling me she can't find her money. She then goes into her living room, and starts pretending to look for the money. Obviously, it's costing me more to sit there and wait for her to find the money rather than going out and getting more fares. And she knew this. Ultimately, I had no choice but to let her win and go get more fares.

Guess what? I've had three black runners, where they basically got out and ran.

Three and three. And before you start talking about population percentages and representation, it's just about even in Norfolk. 43% black and 47% white.

Again... it's all about sucking up to people like you.

We're not talking about podunk Norfolk. We're talking about big cities were the (mostly) non-white drivers refuse to pick up American blacks on sight.

Now before you go and throw your hissy fit Rusty.....know that we agree, that our American blacks are getting profiled by these 3rd worlder illegal alien cabbies, most of whom probably cant even pass a Driver's Test in English.

Now whether it's because they're a bunch of UNCLE TOMs or it's because they can tell SHIT FROM SHINOLA.....the point of agreement is THAT 1/2 of these drunks, are a menace to society and have no business even being on our roads.

The only reason they even continue to get away with this shit, is so all the politicians can line their pockets with illegal kickbacks from the mafia taxi unions.

So, If PRIVATE companies can somehow put an end to this BS taxi rackett, then Rainmaker say Good Riddance!

Rusty Jones
12-31-2016, 06:27 AM
We're not talking about podunk Norfolk. We're talking about big cities were the (mostly) non-white drivers refuse to pick up American blacks on sight.

Translation: "I'm stumped for responses to your examples of white passengers doing the very things that I claim that black passengers do, so I'm going to dismiss Norfolk as being "Podunk," despite it being a bigger city than Baton Rouge, San Bernardino, Spokane, Birmingham, Des Moines, Rochester, Tacoma, Montgomery, Columbus, Little Rock, Shreveport, Grand Rapids, Mobile, Salt Lake City, Knoxville, Providence, Chattanooga, and Dayton."

Yep; and I see why.


Now before you go and throw your hissy fit Rusty.....know that we agree, that our American blacks are getting profiled by these 3rd worlder illegal alien cabbies, most of whom probably cant even pass a Driver's Test in English.

Now whether it's because they're a bunch of UNCLE TOMs or it's because they can tell SHIT FROM SHINOLA.....the point of agreement is THAT 1/2 of these drunks, are a menace to society and have no business even being on our roads.

You're proving my point right here. What, am I supposed to feel better because you're talking shit about non-black minorities as if I'm supposed to be on your side about it? Maybe those immigrant taxi drivers who discriminate against black customers would get a warm & fuzzy from listening to you speak ill of black people, while you pretend to be on their side.

That shit doesn't work on me. I see right through it.


The only reason they even continue to get away with this shit, is so all the politicians can line their pockets with illegal kickbacks from the mafia taxi unions.

So, If PRIVATE companies can somehow put an end to this BS taxi rackett, then Rainmaker say Good Riddance!

Funny, because the same bribes could be made with taxi drivers of ANY citizenship or legal status.

Bos Mutus
12-31-2016, 12:35 PM
I've never seen that before. Must've been in Fairfax Country. They have a whole bunch of laws there that are different from the rest of the state.

It was in Newport News....placed call The Sandbar

Rainmaker
12-31-2016, 03:06 PM
Translation: "I'm stumped for responses to your examples of white passengers doing the very things that I claim that black passengers do, so I'm going to dismiss Norfolk as being "Podunk," despite it being a bigger city than Baton Rouge, San Bernardino, Spokane, Birmingham, Des Moines, Rochester, Tacoma, Montgomery, Columbus, Little Rock, Shreveport, Grand Rapids, Mobile, Salt Lake City, Knoxville, Providence, Chattanooga, and Dayton."


That shit doesn't work on me. I see right through it.





As of 2014 only 6% of NYC cabbies were American born. The majority of them come from Bangladesh or Pakistan.

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/10/nyregion/american-born-cabbies-a-vanishing-breed-in-city.html?_r=1

And yet black Americans are complaining of "racism" because they STILL can't catch a ride.

The idea that a bunch of Mongoloid Refugees (who think we should be living under Sharia) are engaging in "racial profiling", just to try & show out for whitey is ludicrous.

And having tended bar part-time for 10 years in 3 different states.....

Rainmaker can tell you Rusty, that the reason American Blacks get horrible service has nothing to do with racism.....

It's because they are FAR and AWAY, the WORST CUSTOMERS (other than illegal Mexican Foreign nationals and Elderly Canadian-Jewish snow birds). & It's not even up for debate!

garhkal
12-31-2016, 06:47 PM
Not a moot point...if you wanted to carry your personal firearm while on duty, were you allowed to?

No, cause my Security job prohibited it.



Oh...cuz it seemed like you DID have an issue with Uber making that call.


You do know the difference between a brick and mortar business, say like walgreens, vs an online business, like uber/lyft is right. Uber saying "no smoking even though yu are using your OWN CAR to drive people around, is akin to say you working at home for Amazon, doing web maintenance, and them telling you "when on the clock, you can't smoke or drink"..
Where as if you worked IN a walgreens store, them saying "no smoking at work" is understandable, it is afterall THEIR premises you are at.
Uber on the other hand, its NOT THEIR premises. ITS YOURS!

And the other issue i have is that in some regards 70% of the cost of a pack of smokes is tax (NYC!!!), but yet the laws prohibited it to where even IN those housing block buildings, even IF YOU OWN the room/apartment/house, you can't smoke....

Bos Mutus
01-01-2017, 12:11 AM
No, cause my Security job prohibited it.

You do know the difference between a brick and mortar business, say like walgreens, vs an online business, like uber/lyft is right. Uber saying "no smoking even though yu are using your OWN CAR to drive people around, is akin to say you working at home for Amazon, doing web maintenance, and them telling you "when on the clock, you can't smoke or drink"..

Not quite the same unless you are having customers in your house.



Where as if you worked IN a walgreens store, them saying "no smoking at work" is understandable, it is afterall THEIR premises you are at.
Uber on the other hand, its NOT THEIR premises. ITS YOURS!

They are, in a sense, renting your time and car...of course, you don't have to drive with them.



And the other issue i have is that in some regards 70% of the cost of a pack of smokes is tax (NYC!!!), but yet the laws prohibited it to where even IN those housing block buildings, even IF YOU OWN the room/apartment/house, you can't smoke....

I'm with you there.

Rusty Jones
01-01-2017, 12:40 AM
Damn, garhkal, is someone twisting your arm and forcing you to drive for Uber or Lyft? If you need some help, I can come up to Ohio and help get him off of you.

garhkal
01-01-2017, 06:06 AM
Not quite the same unless you are having customers in your house.


Even if i was having customers in my house, like say i did a home beauty salon (like i have known some people do), it still doesn't mean i should be prohibited from partaking in a legally sold substance (tobacco) in my house..


Damn, garhkal, is someone twisting your arm and forcing you to drive for Uber or Lyft? If you need some help, I can come up to Ohio and help get him off of you.

No, i just hate being told "If you want to work for X, stop doing a legal product. Even in your off time.

efmbman
01-01-2017, 04:45 PM
Even if i was having customers in my house, like say i did a home beauty salon (like i have known some people do), it still doesn't mean i should be prohibited from partaking in a legally sold substance (tobacco) in my house..

This is too easy. You gave a false comparison. If you run a business from your home, it is your business. Your actions and/or inaction will reflect on your clientele. Conversely, if you run a franchise of a larger business, then you are required to abide by the rules the franchise establishes. No different that how the Big Mac is regulated and prepared the same way at every location (unless permission is granted to do otherwise). Driving for Uber or Lyft makes you a franchisee. You are using YOUR car, but there are rules to abide by if you want to benefit from the logistical advantages of doing so (the app, payment over card, etc.). If you want to spend your time driving strangers around you are free to start your own company and do so. You must also be aware that when using the corporations name, the corporation incurs some liability on your part. The way the legal system is today, you better believe they would lay out clear and concise rules for being a driver under their brand.