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Bos Mutus
08-29-2016, 09:41 PM
TAMPA — The cramped confines of Marilyn Taylor's cubicle at Thompson Cigar Co. are a shrine of sorts to the company's stogie largesse.
Photos of smiling U.S. troops, clutching cigars in their hands or teeth, are tacked to the fabric walls. American flags that flew over outposts in Iraq and Afghanistan, now folded into tight triangles and mailed as tokens of gratitude, are perched on a ledge. A plaque from a U.S. Army sergeant thanks Taylor and her employer for "bringing us closer to home."
The century-old cigar retailer has donated cigars to American troops since World War I. And Taylor, whose title is international control buyer, has been in charge of the company's donations since the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.
"It's reached the level of lore, and the troops know it," said Alix Franzblau, Thompson's chief operating officer. "They write us letters and say, 'My troop is here, can you send us cigars?' and that's what we've done."
But that time-honored tradition has come to a halt with new Food and Drug Administration regulations on cigars, e-cigarettes and other products that took effect Aug. 8
Among the regulations is what many interpret as a ban on the charitable donation of tobacco products. Premium cigarmakers and retailers like Thompson that have donated thousands of cigars each year risk fines or other sanctions if they keep giving.
Their hands, they say, are tied....

Read more: http://www.tampabay.com/news/business/cigars-for-the-troops/2291318


That sucks...

sandsjames
08-29-2016, 09:50 PM
That sucks...

Yep, it does suck. Grown ass men (and women) having decisions made for them.

garhkal
08-30-2016, 05:10 AM
Especially when many of those law makers ruling on it, often are cigar smokers themselves....

Bos Mutus
08-30-2016, 01:33 PM
Especially when many of those law makers ruling on it, often are cigar smokers themselves....

The thing is, if it is "FDA regulation" and not a "law passed by Congress"; there might not have even been any lawmakers involved...just an FDA adopted rule.

sandsjames
08-30-2016, 01:56 PM
The thing is, if it is "FDA regulation" and not a "law passed by Congress"; there might not have even been any lawmakers involved...just an FDA adopted rule.

Yes, but an FDA adopted rule is as good as law. Just as EPA regulations are as good as law. We live in a country full of unelected "regulation" makers (just as an AFI isn't actual a reg, it's just an "instruction"). These "agencies" have more power than lawmakers ever have. FDA should be allowed to make suggestions and nothing more.

Mjölnir
08-30-2016, 02:45 PM
Yep, it does suck. Grown ass men (and women) having decisions made for them.

I started to think of the military all of a sudden ... :)

sandsjames
08-30-2016, 02:48 PM
I started to think of the military all of a sudden ... :)

Yep...

Of course the one thing that will never be restricted, or even slowed down a little, is every military member's ability to go out and get completely sloshed. Hell, the other day the Budweiser Clydesdales were on base. Can you imagine if Joe Camel showed up?

The hypocrisy of it all is what blows my mind.

Bos Mutus
08-30-2016, 02:54 PM
Yes, but an FDA adopted rule is as good as law. Just as EPA regulations are as good as law. We live in a country full of unelected "regulation" makers (just as an AFI isn't actual a reg, it's just an "instruction"). These "agencies" have more power than lawmakers ever have. FDA should be allowed to make suggestions and nothing more.

Yes, that was my point.