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garhkal
08-06-2015, 08:05 AM
So how in the heck is it even LEGAL for this town to let immigrants who are here illegally and thus cannot legally vote, to serve on their TOWN Council??

Are they brain dead?

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-commissions-huntington-park-20150802-story.html

http://www.examiner.com/article/california-city-to-appoint-two-illegal-immigrants-to-advisory-boards

efmbman
08-06-2015, 12:35 PM
In the LA Times article that you linked:

Jhonny Pineda, a councilman in the city in southeast Los Angeles County, said he will appoint Francisco Medina to the health and education commission and Julian Zatarain to the parks and recreation commission.

Commissioners typically receive a monthly stipend of $75, but neither of the appointees will be compensated, Pineda told The Times.

“If we want to share the same vision of Huntington Park, we want to bring everyone to the table,” Pineda said. “These are well-qualified kids. They have been giving a lot without expecting anything in return.”

So... these illegals will be "commissioners on city advisory boards", not on the city council as the thread title claims. In this case, neither will be paid.

I don't agree with this policy, but I don't live there and I am completely unaffected by this. If the people in that town have issues with it, they have means to protest and / or vote out those responsible. Frankly, this is not surprising considering the number of illegals likely in that area of California. POTUS invites illegals to the State of the Union Address which means those illegals made it past security and law enforcement officers to even enter the Capitol for the speech and nothing was done.

You don't have to spin something into something it isn't to make your point. Just stick to the facts and chances are, it will be better received.

garhkal
08-06-2015, 02:30 PM
In the LA Times article that you linked:


So... these illegals will be "commissioners on city advisory boards", not on the city council as the thread title claims. In this case, neither will be paid.

I don't agree with this policy, but I don't live there and I am completely unaffected by this. If the people in that town have issues with it, they have means to protest and / or vote out those responsible. Frankly, this is not surprising considering the number of illegals likely in that area of California. POTUS invites illegals to the State of the Union Address which means those illegals made it past security and law enforcement officers to even enter the Capitol for the speech and nothing was done.

You don't have to spin something into something it isn't to make your point. Just stick to the facts and chances are, it will be better received.

But the point stands.. How can it be LEGAL for someone to be appointed to an advisory board FOR the city council who is in the country Illegally? Paid or not?

Absinthe Anecdote
08-06-2015, 02:33 PM
But the point stands.. How can it be LEGAL for someone to be appointed to an advisory board FOR the city council who is in the country Illegally? Paid or not?

Did you read all the articles you linked?

FLAPS, USAF (ret)
08-06-2015, 03:34 PM
So how in the heck is it even LEGAL for this town to let immigrants who are here illegally and thus cannot legally vote, to serve on their TOWN Council??

Are they brain dead?

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-commissions-huntington-park-20150802-story.html

http://www.examiner.com/article/california-city-to-appoint-two-illegal-immigrants-to-advisory-boards

Why can't we all just get rid of these invisible borders and get along? We are one world, so we shouldn't have sovereign countries, just one peaceful world that is led by someone with vision, a person who can propel Earth's citizens forward, a person who believes in Equality...a person like Barack Obama. Get rid of term limits. Get rid of Congress!

efmbman
08-06-2015, 04:09 PM
But the point stands.. How can it be LEGAL for someone to be appointed to an advisory board FOR the city council who is in the country Illegally? Paid or not?

I think the difference is semantic. It is legal only because there is not a law to specifically prevent it.

Rainmaker
08-06-2015, 04:53 PM
So how in the heck is it even LEGAL for this town to let immigrants who are here illegally and thus cannot legally vote, to serve on their TOWN Council??

Are they brain dead?



Yes, California went Full Retard along time ago.

From the LA Times article...

The move is an effort to give people here illegally a voice in government...

"Everybody can be involved in government, as long as it's done legally"

We might as well just Let California and Arizona secede now, form their own empire called "Mexifornia" and appoint John McCain El Presedente for life.

FLAPS, USAF (ret)
08-06-2015, 05:03 PM
Yes, California went Full Retard along time ago.

From the LA Times article...

The move is an effort to give people here illegally a voice in government...

"Everybody can be involved in government, as long as it's done legally"

We might as well just Let California and Arizona secede now, form their own empire called "Mexifornia" and appoint John McCain El Presedente for life.

Again, proponents of this do not believe in borders or national sovereignty. Everyone's "equal" and everyone gets a "fair shake." If you don't believe this, then you are a racist, bigoted homophobe who hates the poor and people of color.

Bos Mutus
08-06-2015, 05:06 PM
Why can't we all just get rid of these invisible borders and get along? We are one world, so we shouldn't have sovereign countries, just one peaceful world that is led by someone with vision, a person who can propel Earth's citizens forward, a person who believes in Equality...a person like Barack Obama. Get rid of term limits. Get rid of Congress!


Yes, California went Full Retard along time ago.

From the LA Times article...

The move is an effort to give people here illegally a voice in government...

"Everybody can be involved in government, as long as it's done legally"

We might as well just Let California and Arizona secede now, form their own empire called "Mexifornia" and appoint John McCain El Presedente for life.

YOu're on the right track...but a little off...Oregon, Idaho, Colorado and the Northeast are included also...our monarch will be the Pope and we will be the new Zion.

#Agenda21 #Youcan'tstopitnow

Rainmaker
08-06-2015, 05:23 PM
Again, proponents of this do not believe in borders or national sovereignty. Everyone's "equal" and everyone gets a "fair shake." If you don't believe this, then you are a racist, bigoted homophobe who hates the poor and people of color.

Agree Flaps,

This should not be a race issue. Law abiding legal Mexican immigrants, shouldn't want us overrun by these Central American invaders either.

But, Were I think you and I differ, is that I don't think The GOP is intent on fixing this.

Because, without a radical change of direction (which means deporting people and putting businesses that hire them out of business) Just, Closing down the border won't fix this.

Most of these illegals aren't coming over the border. most of them come in on Visas and then just overstay.

Trump is the only one talking about rounding them up and getting them the fuck out of here. And the consensus (in the media anyway) seems to be that he's unelectable.

The entire 'Middle Class' in the United States has been sold out and shipped to China. Whatever's left of the Middle Class jobs here have been extorted through cheap onshore labor and this flood of illegal immigration

25 years ago, So Cal used to have a robust industrial base. Today the only thing they manufacture in So Cal are Hispanic gangbangers.

California is just a bellwether for what's coming to the rest of the country.

Absinthe Anecdote
08-06-2015, 05:23 PM
Yes, California went Full Retard along time ago.

From the LA Times article...

The move is an effort to give people here illegally a voice in government...

"Everybody can be involved in government, as long as it's done legally"

We might as well just Let California and Arizona secede now, form their own empire called "Mexifornia" and appoint John McCain El Presedente for life.

Mexifornia!

Ha ha ha! ROTFLMAO so funny! Good one!

That is almost as funny as shot gunning two PBRs and belching the alaphabet.

Why don't you light a couple of farts on fire for amusement of the fellas down at NRA prepper bunker bar?

Rainmaker
08-06-2015, 05:31 PM
Youcan'tstopitnow

maybe, maybe not. ...but, If that happens and a revolution comes to the country, It won't be 1776 style it'll be French Revolution 2.0 style.

Rainmaker
08-06-2015, 05:33 PM
Mexifornia!

Ha ha ha! ROTFLMAO so funny! Good one!

That is almost as funny as shot gunning two PBRs and belching the alaphabet.

Why don't you light a couple of farts on fire for amusement of the fellas down at NRA prepper bunker bar?

I see you guys always posting in tandum.

HQ really should put you two on opposite shifts, so they can have coverage 24/7 .

Bos Mutus
08-06-2015, 05:40 PM
I see you guys always posting in tandum.

HQ really should put you two on opposite shifts, so they can have coverage 24/7 .

They wanted us to double-team you...you're like the conservahick MVP....the losers on the reddit site have barely made out that Jeb Bush is one of us...they are still laughing about liberals being "dumb" without realizing we've been outsmarting them for decades and the New World Order is upon us...All Hail Francis....

Absinthe Anecdote
08-06-2015, 05:48 PM
They wanted us to double-team you...you're like the conservahick MVP....the losers on the reddit site have barely made out that Jeb Bush is one of us...they are still laughing about liberals being "dumb" without realizing we've been outsmarting them for decades and the New World Order is upon us...All Hail Francis....

MVP?

Have you seen the video footage from the micro drones?

Looking at his junky house on the video feed, we don't have much to worry about.

Rainmaker
08-06-2015, 05:55 PM
MVP?

Have you seen the video footage from the micro drones?

Looking at his junky house on the video feed, we don't have much to worry about.

Man, you're a real multi-tasker. Between monitoring the FMV on my compound and planning on making your Aliya, where do you find the time?

By the way? Did you guys follow up on the lead Rainmaker gave you on that mosque in Silver Spring yet?

Absinthe Anecdote
08-06-2015, 06:02 PM
Man, you're a real multi-tasker. Between monitoring the FMV on my compound and planning on making your Aliya, where do you find the time?

By the way? Did you guys follow up on the lead Rainmaker gave you on that mosque in Silver Spring yet?

We already knew about it. The imam is one of ours, cool guy, he was an out-of-work actor that we planted in he mosque along time ago.

TJMAC77SP
08-06-2015, 06:10 PM
Ok, all rhetoric and hyperbole aside (on both sides)......................

Does anyone see the core problem with giving any person breaking the law a position officially sanctioned by an elected body of officials?

Rainmaker
08-06-2015, 06:23 PM
Ok, all rhetoric and hyperbole aside (on both sides)......................

Does anyone see the core problem with giving any person breaking the law a position officially sanctioned by an elected body of officials?

If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government, and which against the usurpations of the national rulers, may be exerted with infinitely better prospect of success than against those of the rulers of an individual state…..”

- Federalist papers No.28

Rainmaker
08-06-2015, 06:39 PM
Ok, all rhetoric and hyperbole aside (on both sides)......................

Does anyone see the core problem with giving any person breaking the law a position officially sanctioned by an elected body of officials?

.So, TJ

Never mind getting into the legitimacy of a government that ignores the law and what that means.....

But, that was my point (before the Marxist troll boys went crazy) by their saying

"The move is an effort to give people here illegally a voice in government" and then saying

"Everybody can be involved in government, as long as it's done legally"

It's like saying. I want to lose 500lbs by eating pure lard all day every day

Absinthe Anecdote
08-06-2015, 06:47 PM
Ok, all rhetoric and hyperbole aside (on both sides)......................

Does anyone see the core problem with giving any person breaking the law a position officially sanctioned by an elected body of officials?

It is pretty dumb in concept, but in the case of a local government in California that has a large illegal population, it makes a small amount of sense, not much sense but a small amount.

Those illegals aren't going anywhere, if I were a mayor out there, I'd want some information flowing back and forth with that segment of the community.

I wish the Republicans would start attacking the illegal immigration problem from the angle that current policies harm the illegals.

The argument would go like this: Democratic polices harm immigrants by encouraging them to cross the border illegally. They are put at great risk from smugglers that exploit and abuse them.

Once here, sanctuary communities encourage the immigrants to remain illegal, making them vulnerable to being exploited by unfair employers who pay them little and abuse them because of their illegal status.

The solution is to stop the flow, document everyone, deport those who have criminal backgrounds, and give work visas to the rest so they can pay taxes legally and not live under the fear of being deported or abused by unscrupulous employers.

Flip the tables and make the democrats and their policy of sanctuary and status quo be the true oppressors.

That would be my strategy if I were a republican running for office.

Work visas would be easy to get (document the undocumented), citizenship would have to be earned, and criminals would be sent home.

Rainmaker
08-06-2015, 07:26 PM
It is pretty dumb in concept, but in the case of a local government in California that has a large illegal population, it makes a small amount of sense, not much sense but a small amount.

Those illegals aren't going anywhere, if I were a mayor out there, I'd want some information flowing back and forth with that segment of the community.

I wish the Republicans would start attacking the illegal immigration problem from the angle that current policies harm the illegals.

The argument would go like this: Democratic polices harm immigrants by encouraging them to cross the border illegally. They are put at great risk from smugglers that exploit and abuse them.

Once here, sanctuary communities encourage the immigrants to remain illegal, making them vulnerable to being exploited by unfair employers who pay them little and abuse them because of their illegal status.

The solution is to stop the flow, document everyone, deport those who have criminal backgrounds, and give work visas to the rest so they can pay taxes legally and not live under the fear of being deported or abused by unscrupulous employers.

Flip the tables and make the democrats and their policy of sanctuary and status quo be the true oppressors.

That would be my strategy if I were a republican running for office.

Work visas would be easy to get (document the undocumented), citizenship would have to be earned, and criminals would be sent home.

Basically what you want is the gang of 8 amnesty plan. But frame it as an act of love ( so you can feel all sanctimonious about it)

You should vote rubio or Jeb

Absinthe Anecdote
08-06-2015, 07:52 PM
Basically what you want is the gang of 8 amnesty plan. But frame it as an act of love ( so you can feel all sanctimonious about it)

You should vote rubio or Jeb

It isn't about what I want. What I want doesn't matter.

That would be my strategy to win votes and flip the table on the Democrats.

Rainmaker
08-06-2015, 07:57 PM
It isn't about what I want. What I want doesn't matter.

That would be my strategy to win votes and flip the table on the Democrats.

That's basically what they tried in 2013 and the tea party stopped it.

Just curious why vote for a party that doesn't represent what you want then?

Mjölnir
08-06-2015, 08:03 PM
Just curious why vote for a party that doesn't represent what you want then?

Do you vote for the party or the individual?

Granted, who the individual caucuses with is HUGE; but too many people look at it from what letter is behind a candidate's name vice what they actually state as their values.

Absinthe Anecdote
08-06-2015, 08:08 PM
That's basically what they tried in 2013 and the tea party stopped it.

Just curious why vote for a party that doesn't represent what you want then?

We can't live in a hermetically sealed country, nor would I want to.

We can't deport that many people, nor would I want us to try.

I do think that we could make work visas easy to get, any pull in some good revenue from it.

We could also make citizenship something that people have to work hard for and be proud of once they get it.

Rainmaker
08-06-2015, 08:15 PM
We can't live in a hermetically sealed country, nor would I want to.

We can't deport that many people, nor would I want us to try.

I do think that we could make work visas easy to get, any pull in some good revenue from it.

We could also make citizenship something that people have to work hard for and be proud of once they get it.

So you have no problem with the government encroaching on the constitutional rights of the citizenry with things like the Orwellian patriot act.

But, you don't want the government to enforce current immigration laws because that would mean you live in a hermetically sealed country?

Rainmaker
08-06-2015, 08:28 PM
Do you vote for the party or the individual?

Granted, who the individual caucuses with is HUGE; but too many people look at it from what letter is behind a candidate's name vice what they actually state as their values.

Rainmaker used to vote the straight GOP ticket. But haven't in a long while. Because, I'd rather abstain and lose an election to the socialists, who don't profess to represent my conservative values and make no bones about it. But, don't have split loyalties.

than to vote for a bunch of Norman Podhoretz Neocon RINOs who profess to represent my conservative values. But, really don't and who have questionable loyalties.

Rainmaker thinks the latter is far more dangerous to the Republic.

Absinthe Anecdote
08-06-2015, 08:35 PM
So you have no problem with the government encroaching on the constitutional rights of the citizenry with things like the Orwellian patriot act.

But, you don't want the government to enforce current immigration laws because that would mean you live in a hermetically sealed country?

Enforcing our current immigration laws would not result in a hermetically sealed county, and the Patriot Act, as it has been used since 2005, doesn't bother or scare me at all.

Why do you constantly fear monger?

Societies change over the course of time, you can't keep America like it was in the 1950s.

We obviously need a guest worker program that fits our current needs, why are you afraid of creating one?

Rainmaker
08-06-2015, 09:34 PM
Enforcing our current immigration laws would not result in a hermetically sealed county, and the Patriot Act, as it has been used since 2005, doesn't bother or scare me at all.

Why do you constantly fear monger?

Societies change over the course of time, you can't keep America like it was in the 1950s.

We obviously need a guest worker program that fits our current needs, why are you afraid of creating one?

Well, I disagree with you that we need a guest worker program for immigrants when we've got 90 Million American Citizens out of work and living on the dole. We've got more than enough H1B visas killing our kids in the IT and Engineering sectors right now already.

And, Why do You guys always have to go to the "afraid" meme?. It's just like the Gays were with anyone who didn't agree with the agenda must be either be a Homophobe or secretly gay themselves.

I'm not fear mongering. I'm living in reality. They will never fix this.

The Progressive robed overlords of the SCOTUS have already ruled that the states can't even require IDs in Federal elections, so how are you going to enforce it?

What they're gonna make em all get E-verify? So, Mikekerriii types can go crazy , and the SCOTUS can rule it a violation to have to present an ID? "Oh the Humanity!"

You would have to be brain dead to realize, that There's no true political will in either party to fix this.

If there was, then Why didn't Obama just ram it thru like Obama care when he had the majority? Why didn't compassionate conservative Evangelical nutjob before him? or the one before that? You know why? Cause they don't want to.

Not only have they not fixed it, they've gone to the extent of actively prosecuting border states for trying to supplement border security when the Federal government has intentionally abandoned the security of the National border.


As far as the Patriot act goes and keeping us safe. My job takes me out to construction sites. 90% of the workers are illegals. Everybody knows it.

There's no enforcement. The government doesn't even know who in the hell's here in the country right now. They don't even have a means for tracking how many visas are expired.

But, they got no problem in sticking a camera up your Grandmas ass at the airport and making American women dump out baby formula when, they already know who they are?

If you think this makes sense, then you are either hired or retarded.

Absinthe Anecdote
08-06-2015, 10:09 PM
...we've got 90 Million American Citizens out of work and living on the dole.

Citation please!

Rainmaker
08-06-2015, 11:27 PM
Citation please!

Wallstreet journal. Official unemployment + working age but sitting on their ass = 90 million.

Look no one knows the real numbers. Pick a liberal site. I won't argue it,

Because, whatever number you pick it's gonna be a shit ton. You get the idea..

Absinthe Anecdote
08-06-2015, 11:28 PM
Wallstreet journal. Official unemployment + working age but sitting on their ass = 90 million.

We can argue the numbers. Pick a liberal site. But, whatever number you pick it's gonna be a shit ton

That isn't a proper citation, give a link to were you got that number.

http://www.deptofnumbers.com/unemployment/us/

National Unemployment Rate National Unemployed Persons
June 2015 5.3% 8,299,000

8 million, not 90 million as you claim.

Like I asked earlier, why do you always fear monger?

Rainmaker
08-06-2015, 11:39 PM
That isn't a proper citation, give a link to were you got that number.

I'm at the bar. Google it. Wall street journal 90 million.

Or you can keep refreshing till I get on old school laptop.

And you're counted in the number college boy!

Absinthe Anecdote
08-06-2015, 11:48 PM
I'm at the bar. Google it. Wall street journal 90 million.

Or you can keep refreshing till I get on old school laptop.

And you're counted in the number college boy!

If you count underemployed, as in this Forbes article, it is 30 million.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/abbymccloskey/2015/02/18/more-than-one-in-ten-workers-unemployed-or-underemployed/

Underemployed is still employed.

Rainmaker
08-06-2015, 11:51 PM
If you count underemployed, as in this Forbes article, it is 30 million.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/abbymccloskey/2015/02/18/more-than-one-in-ten-workers-unemployed-or-underemployed/

Underemployed is still employed.

Okay we'll go with your number. How many illegals we got?

Absinthe Anecdote
08-07-2015, 12:00 AM
Okay we'll go with your number. How many illegals we got?

I keep seeing estimates of 11 million illegals....

8 million unemployed...

Rainmaker
08-07-2015, 12:03 AM
I keep seeing estimates of 11 million illegals....

8 million unemployed...

How bout social security disability the last 8 years. What's that number done,?

How bout just gave up and living on public assistance what's that number done,?

Absinthe Anecdote
08-07-2015, 12:12 AM
How bout social security disability the last 8 years. What's that number done,?

How bout just gave up and living on public assistance what's that number done,?

What am I, Google?

Go drink your cheep beer.

Rainmaker
08-07-2015, 12:19 AM
What am I, Google?

Go drink your cheep beer.

No more Natty bo for this kid

I drink local microbews. Beer is one of the few things that's gotten better in America over the last couple decades

Bos Mutus
08-07-2015, 12:28 AM
No more Natty bo for this kid

I drink local microbews. Beer is one of the few things that's gotten better in America over the last couple decades

Thanks, Obama

Rainmaker
08-07-2015, 12:34 AM
Thanks, Obama

I said good beer. Not shit malt liquor.

Rollyn01
08-07-2015, 01:18 AM
I said good beer. Not shit malt liquor.

Honestly, I don't know how people drink that stuff. I stay well away from it. I don't drink Bud anymore (you will never, ever, ever find me drinking Bud light). Hell, I drink any and all of Sam Adams' line up without a thought. Again, the beer is getting better, but the stale waste of piss type beers still exist and we need to get rid of them.

FLAPS, USAF (ret)
08-07-2015, 04:19 AM
Honestly, I don't know how people drink that stuff. I stay well away from it. I don't drink Bud anymore (you will never, ever, ever find me drinking Bud light). Hell, I drink any and all of Sam Adams' line up without a thought. Again, the beer is getting better, but the stale waste of piss type beers still exist and we need to get rid of them.

Only the first several beers actually need to taste good. After that, Colt 45, Heineken, Yuengling, Rolling Rock...same same.

garhkal
08-07-2015, 05:00 AM
I think the difference is semantic. It is legal only because there is not a law to specifically prevent it.

They must be smoking some serious weed to feel that since law states you can't vote if you are in the country illegally (or not even a citizen/legal resident) that there is somehow leeway in whether you can serve the govt by working for it (even if unpaid).


Did you read all the articles you linked?

All no. I read the one on Fox after initially hearing about it on GOPUSA and from CNN's ticker at around 5pm yesterday. So i searched to see how many more sites i could link to it, and just grabbed 2 from a quick bing list.



Ok, all rhetoric and hyperbole aside (on both sides)......................

Does anyone see the core problem with giving any person breaking the law a position officially sanctioned by an elected body of officials?.So, TJ

Never mind getting into the legitimacy of a government that ignores the law and what that means.....

But, that was my point (before the Marxist troll boys went crazy) by their saying

"The move is an effort to give people here illegally a voice in government" and then saying

"Everybody can be involved in government, as long as it's done legally"

It's like saying. I want to lose 500lbs by eating pure lard all day every day

My points exactly RM. If they say "get a voice but do it legal, then how is it NOT illegal do have someone serve who can't vote by dint of their presence in the country being Illegally here?

It just beggers belief.


Those illegals aren't going anywhere, if I were a mayor out there, I'd want some information flowing back and forth with that segment of the community.

And why are they not going anywhere.. Cause laws are not being enforced. If they were, then there wouldn't be a need for this to happen.
Just like if all the 1000s of gun control laws we Already have on the books were properly enforced, we wouldn't be needing MORE laws to be voted in to deal with gun issues..


The solution is to stop the flow, document everyone, deport those who have criminal backgrounds, and give work visas to the rest so they can pay taxes legally and not live under the fear of being deported or abused by unscrupulous employers.

How is that not the same as Amnesty the POTUS is trying to push for? And how is that not effectively saying to the hundreds of thousands each year that do things legally, "Sucks to be you!"...


We can't deport that many people, nor would I want us to try.

I keep hearing people say that.. WHY can't we deport that many people? What is it about there being this # of illegals here, that all of a sudden makes it impossible to deport them all?


We could also make citizenship something that people have to work hard for and be proud of once they get it.

And exactly what would the benefit of becoming a citizen be, if someone here illegally for X number of years and get's amnestied in with a visa, gets all the same benefits??



We obviously need a guest worker program that fits our current needs, why are you afraid of creating one?

With as many people as we have out of work right now collecting unemployment, WHY exactly do we need to bring in Guest workers??

Rollyn01
08-07-2015, 06:38 PM
Only the first several beers actually need to taste good. After that, Colt 45, Heineken, Yuengling, Rolling Rock...same same.

I can see how that could work. :laughing: However, no matter how drunk I am, bad beer always taste disgusting to me.

Absinthe Anecdote
08-07-2015, 06:50 PM
I can see how that could work. :laughing: However, no matter how drunk I am, bad beer always taste disgusting to me.

The Germans make some awesome malt liquor, they call it maltzbier, high alcohol content beer that doesn't leave you with a hangover.

The best of the American NASCAR beers is Coors Light, get it cold enough and it goes down like spring water.

Budweiser is too sour, and Miller is too sudsy...

Sam Adams Boston Lager rocks, their Pale Ale is good too.

Brooklyn Lager is awesome but hard to find sometimes.

I am more of a vodka drinker, Grey Goose on the rocks is my drink of choice.

Rollyn01
08-07-2015, 10:01 PM
The Germans make some awesome malt liquor, they call it maltzbier, high alcohol content beer that doesn't leave you with a hangover.

The best of the American NASCAR beers is Coors Light, get it cold enough and it goes down like spring water.

Budweiser is too sour, and Miller is too sudsy...

Sam Adams Boston Lager rocks, their Pale Ale is good too.

Brooklyn Lager is awesome but hard to find sometimes.

I am more of a vodka drinker, Grey Goose on the rocks is my drink of choice.

See you? I like you. I'm into Sam Adams Seasonal but most of their line up is really good. I also like Gery Goose, but Belvedere is what I prefer for use in a good screwdriver.

Bos Mutus
08-07-2015, 10:11 PM
The Germans make some awesome malt liquor, they call it maltzbier, high alcohol content beer that doesn't leave you with a hangover.

The best of the American NASCAR beers is Coors Light, get it cold enough and it goes down like spring water.

Budweiser is too sour, and Miller is too sudsy...

Sam Adams Boston Lager rocks, their Pale Ale is good too.

Brooklyn Lager is awesome but hard to find sometimes.

I am more of a vodka drinker, Grey Goose on the rocks is my drink of choice.

I like Sam Adams...we have some good local breweries here that I usually get. Figueroa Mtn Brewery and Firestone Walker Brewery...both have good line-ups...I like darker beers.

I'm not a vodka guy...more of a whiskey guy

Bulleit
Maker's Mark
Gentleman Jack
Jack Daniels Single Barrel
Jameson

All in my wheelhouse...

Brown Ale, Whiskey, neat, and a fine cigar...my Friday night!

Rainmaker
08-07-2015, 10:14 PM
I am more of a vodka drinker, Grey Goose on the rocks is my drink of choice.

Have you ever seen a Commie drink a glass of water? Vodka that's what they drink isn't it? Never water.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J67wKhddWu4

Absinthe Anecdote
08-07-2015, 10:27 PM
Have you ever seen a Commie drink a glass of water? Vodka that's what they drink isn't it? Never water.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr2bSL5VQgM

I went to an Intel conference hosted by the Germans once. Every day in the working groups I had some bottled water with me, and I noticed a few of the Germans looking at me whenever I took a drink.

One of them finally asked, "vodka?"

I jokingly said, "sure have a drink" and handed him my water bottle. He actually took a swig and disappointedly yelled, "water!"

Europeans don't drink water like we do, if you order bottled water chances are they'll bring you sparkling water.

Absinthe Anecdote
08-07-2015, 10:36 PM
I like Sam Adams...we have some good local breweries here that I usually get. Figueroa Mtn Brewery and Firestone Walker Brewery...both have good line-ups...I like darker beers.

I'm not a vodka guy...more of a whiskey guy

Bulleit
Maker's Mark
Gentleman Jack
Jack Daniels Single Barrel
Jameson

All in my wheelhouse...

Brown Ale, Whiskey, neat, and a fine cigar...my Friday night!

Speaking of dark beers, a good Guinness is hard to beat, but the bar better maintain their taps and clean the lines.

If they haven't flushed out the lines from the keg it can destroy the taste. Those pint Guiness cans deliver an excellent Guinness.

When I was younger, I used to love an Irish Car Bomb. Basically a boiler maker made with Guiness, Baileys, and Jameson.

Bos Mutus
08-07-2015, 10:56 PM
Speaking of dark beers, a good Guinness is hard to beat, but the bar better maintain their taps and clean the lines.

I used to go to this bar where whenever the bartender what done pouring a Guiness, he would turn off the tap leaving it going really slow...then draw a four leaf clover into the foam with the dribble...was pretty cool


If they haven't flushed out the lines from the keg it can destroy the taste. Those pint Guiness cans deliver an excellent Guinness.

When I was younger, I used to love an Irish Car Bomb. Basically a boiler maker made with Guiness, Baileys, and Jameson.

Yeah...I've done some car bombs...lol